I am convinced that eating in New York is less expensive than the Bay but folks seem convinced that they are about the same. I have a burgeoning theory but am I just way off?
@griotspeak as in, California bay area, right? Having lived in New York I feel like the food I ate there was delicious and not expensive. I never went to like, hundred dollar a plate places; I think the most we'd ever spent was like, 200 (with taxes and tips) at a vegan sushi place for two and it was fucking delicious. Most of the time we were under 100 for two, including drinks, tip, taxes, etc.

I feel like everything I've heard about the bay area suggests that's basically non-existent there.
@aud It certainly *exists* in the bay it’s just not as common or consistent
@griotspeak nyc isn’t necessarily cheaper, but on the whole you get better quality and variety for the money
@steve That’s kind of the crux of my theory, I think. I realized later that people were probably talking about eating out at fancier places. I was literally talking about like… lunch and dinner on workdays
@griotspeak there are a lot of good under the radar places in the bay, but most of the mainstream “restaurant scene” doesn’t talk about them at all. NYC loves them.

@griotspeak big part of it is that people still go out in nyc. Door Dash etc have absolutely destroyed the “middle class” restaurant scene in the bay. A problem everywhere but much worse in SFBA.

Pretty much every great “casual” place I used to go in South Bay is gone, and every one of them closed up because it just didn’t make any sense to run a real restaurant when every order is delivery service.

@griotspeak (how dire was it? So dire that multiple chefs texted me, an east coaster who they hadn’t seen as a customer more often than once a quarter for a decade, to give me a heads up that they were going to close.)
@griotspeak NYC has a long culture of breakfast & lunch places. I used to get sandwiches from a place that closed at 3pm sharp. They opened at 5 to serve egg sandwiches and such. I remember their pastrami and swiss as being heavenly. Course, this was twenty-five years ago when I worked there.