LupertEverett
jonny (good kind)the thing about all these people who love LLMs is that they will shit in your mouth, ask you to consider the taste of the shit they shat in your mouth, spend your hard-won moments of human life to let the shit they shat in your mouth sink into your mouth, and then they will take whatever you say and somehow turn that into more shit in your mouth and pretend like you weren't just eating the shit they just shat in your mouth already
i just want to remind all the AI maximalists out there that you guys are fucking assholes. like all of you are huge dickheads. like not as an immutable trait, just that using AI seems to make you a huge fucking asshole, and you all act like dickheads to everyone and don't seem to even notice. like you are riding on a magic carpet powered by a dogs shit and everyone around you is like "wow why is that guy riding on a magic dogshit carpet around everyone and getting dogshit all over them" and you are just like "ha ha ha i am flying fuck you all"
for real though: the delusion that LLMs make you more productive is the conspiracy/cult thought pattern with self defense mechanisms that i have been trying to comprehend my whole life. that motion wandering through a desert of dogshit aimlessly feels like progress because the slot machine occasionally cashes out funny money that feels real is the entire dynamics of grift. I am running out of fingers to count the projects that could be done by real honest work and planning in a tenth the time of the "produce nonsense, whittle away in an incomprehsible, unbounded void of nonsense" development pattern. and the old pattern had problems but when people were huge dickheads to each other while doing it it was because they disagreed about things they at least thought they believed. now people are just dickheads to each other and there is nobody there to say "wow that was a thing that only a huge dickhead would say"
"fuck you and fuck your feelings here is my nonsense code which i assert to be logically sound despite being on its face nonsense and i have come to save the day" is the rudest thing that has happened to me in awhile.
Daniël Franke 
@jonny what the fuck is that tone? who speaks like that? Did they ask chat gippity to be ultra condescending to you?
Danny GarsideUrgh. What's the fucking point of anything if we don't try to be nice to eachother along the way
@da5nsy I WAS ALSO RUDE but it was because i had received the explicit signal that my interlocutor was NOT ENGAGING because they had put the word machine on autopilot and walked away from the god damned keyboard!@!!!!!!
Asta [AMP]@jonny ooooooh that riles up my kill gland
Ratsnake Games 🔞@jonny i am very much willing to say things like "wow that was a thing that only a huge dickhead would say" but there is not a robust infrastructure for turning that into a career that pays
maegulYea, and at the same time there seems to be plenty of “infrastructure” in support of a unplanned pool of nonsense environment that it’s often not wrong to presume it is a given and so embrace LLMs as a seeming lesser evil.
Jake in the desert
David Cohen@jonny It’s not a delusion, it is a con - saying that ‘AI’ makes you more productive is just the scam to make people buy in. The real benefit is the grifter’s bank balance.
Faye@jonny it’s amazing how “I immediately want to slap this guy around the face” is no longer a valid heuristic.
Like, generally speaking, this heuristic evolved to weed out people working in bad faith.
And now there’s competitions to see who can become the most slappable.
And we’re supposed to just sit here and take it.
(Disclaimer: using this as a metaphor, I do not condone actually slapping people, no matter how much they deserve it)
Yora@jonny Everyone who mentions using AI without being under duress gets immediately blocked.
I want to see nothing these people have to say, and I don't want them to know about anything I am working on.
I want to see nothing these people have to say, and I don't want them to know about anything I am working on.
J. R. DePriest 
:EA DATA. SF:I used the internal genAI tool because we are all asked to use it (not yet, told). I wanted to see if the internal hype was real.
I was manually translating Splunk queries to Sentinel One queries.
I asked the chatbot to do one.
The field names were wrong, like it was just making them up, and it left the logical operators all in upper case, which is invalid in S1. It was immediately evident they were non-functional.
I added prompts on how to fix the problems.
After I fixed them all, I had a functional query.
The only thing useful it added was replacing the Splunk wildcard searches with S1 contains which I would have figured out eventually as part of optimization if I did it myself.
The amount of effort it took just to get syntactically correct queries would have been better spent doing the reading so I could learn it. Unfortunately, S1 documentation on their query language is either shit or I just can't find it.
Eventually, I want to automate some of this using our automation platform and the relevant APIs so I thought, naïvely, the training data might have enough sample data to be helpful.
It poisoned my thinking. Instead of learning how to do the thing, my mind keeps slipping back into wondering how to optimize having a fake conversation with a plagiarism regurgitation engine.
They are the death of creativity.
Jessica the VI Artist🎚️🎹🌈@jonny @vxo And from a musicians perspective: imagine if flying is something we could actually do naturally if we worked and studied and tried hard over many years. Then overnight, all these big know it all we’re flying circles around us on their smelly magic carpets without doing an ounce of the work and not looking nearly as beautiful.
Zach Bennoui@jonny Lmao this is the best thing I've read all week. I think AI can be useful for some things, but do we really need it in every single aspect of our lives? No, I don't think we do. The tech behind these models is really cool, but I'm not happy with how most are using it. Don't let LLMs take over your brain or ability to think, you'll just end up being disappointed in the end.
Dan Goodman@jonny poetry! ❤️
Alex UsedToGoToVenice@jonny watching your arc from genuine and good-faith "idk maybe?" To fully vehement "fuck this" has been a great triangulation
Now that I'm a bureaucrat and don't touch code or data it's hard to get a first-hand sense of how annoying this is to deal with
bituur esztreym@jonny
funni-.. er.. creepiest part is they call us "bunch a tedious bastards" all the while.. cf. https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116286540925560722 + in the thread
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edit: they call "us" not "you" tedious etc..
@bituur_esztreym i am tedious as fuck if these guys think it's tedious to like "acknowledge what other people have said or wrote in any way before blanketing the earth with some language byproduct that purports to be in response to it"
@jonny i&i too! was happy last night, as a simple fediverse member, to block a whole domain for the first time, quite a satisfying experience!
Krzysztof Sakrejda@jonny you're really on a roll here
@wronglang i am grieving something beautiful and that thing is talking to each other
@jonny just like peers rather than being measured in likes?