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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 5h ago

catching up on anthropology dot net, just heard," They didn't come with the farmers," and happy to report it's a story that separates farming from war, tells a story of agriculture beginning and spreading by not conquest.
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It's important to me to separate those things. These moderns talk as if eating and killing were all one thing. I mean they speak of the very opposites of peaceful farming and violent migration together, like both are "civilization." I think it's important to know they do not travel together, that there was an "agricultural revolution," but also a military one and it is not efficacious to blame the war on the farmers
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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 5h ago

@autistics
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not sure if anyone remembers my rant about the Iceman?
Was he murdered by farmers, or hunter-gatherers? LOL There's a third option, maybe he was killed by warrior sorts.
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Folks don't think war is a sort, they think it's automatic and built into everyone. As though it didn't start less then ten thousand years ago, as though it's been three million years of war. As though you can just do that forever.
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EDIT TO ADD:
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Sorry, thinking out loud:
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I mean, the logic is so there: if there were a warrior caste nowadays, that’s what they would think, that war is the natural born way of the world, right?
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Your neurotype is the things you do not or cannot question, and the difference between knowing the world is war with your whole brain, and knowing that your brain just always wants to think that would be massive.
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Knowing that you have a brain and that it has tendencies, would be huge - like Kant’s idealism, he “showed,” that both time and space were properties of the mind, and not of the world, I think this is true of war too, in Kant’s syllogism, if you cannot imagine a world without space, then space is part of your imagination organ, same for same, if you cannot imagine a world without war, then war is a component of your imagination, a part of your brain, your neurotype.
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You may argue about time and space, but can you really argue that war would exist without us? 😠
Bah. Pithy, innit. Sorry.
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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama

@autistics
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so now I've heard the one about Neanderthal birch tar antibiotics, and again, I love every time they have to realize that people from hundreds of thousands of years ago were fully realized people.
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Only one minor note:
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I know the accumulation of technologies surely takes time, but honestly, if I was already making and using tar glue for my sharp rock projects, I imagine the medical discovery would happen automatically, within my first year of the trade. You've got it on your hands, you're probably cutting yourself often enough, you'd get tar in some cuts and maybe not others . . .
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again, if I was already that far along
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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 4h ago

@autistics
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onto one called, "Monte Verde's dates are wrong. Maybe." and I'm scared, I think it is going to make me angry, I have a nasty feeling we're going to to the wrong side of things, that they're going to make something newer rather than older. Grrrrr.
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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 4h ago

@autistics
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OK, 2/3 of the way through, first we heard about the Clovis idea, then Monte Verde looked a little older (and is far to the south as well), and the news is someone indeed cutting that age in half and the idea and tech they used to do it . . . the last third is to be about the pushback against the new dates and the ensuing battle.
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I don't wish to get too caught up in one site, there are many, many sites in the Americas that are older than Clovis and some far, far older.
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I'll just say, the first objection comes to mind is first the new crew says the site is above a known ash layer that is only from eleven thousand years back - but then they say the creek redistributes new and old matter all the time, so at the very least these two ideas do not support each other.
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OK, back to it. 💜
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EDIT TO ADD: actually, I may save that for tomorrow, switch to hockey. Happy to save something to think about tomorrow, happy to have a diversion in the bank. Take care, y'all. 💜
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Green Roc Thoughts 3h ago

@punishmenthurts And some of the findings in south america dated relics to be older the farther south they go... as far as I recall my thousands of thousands of hours of watching videos about ancient settlements... (like right now, Albert Lyn)

I believe less and less in the landbridge theory. I believe in ancient boats.

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 3h ago

@GreenRoc
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Yeah, I have a book, Paulette Steeves, The Indigenous Paleolithic of the Western Hemisphere. I used to follow her on Twitter, loved her, miss her.
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There are sites dated as far back as 35,000 years, I think.
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and isn't Albert terrific, watch him every chance I get too. And yes, boats. The idea of land barriers is almost silly. 💜
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Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 3h ago

@GreenRoc
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change of topic, but it’s the Americas, and not really my guy - but I have this show saved, it looks to me like in Peru they figured out how to live during global warming.
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Green Roc Thoughts 3h ago

@punishmenthurts Ooooo I may like that. I'm watching Albert talking about Pelenke rn. South American natives fascinates me. Makes me angry how they were nearly wiped out by Spanish flu.

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 2h ago

@GreenRoc
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yeah. 💜
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The earliest explorers' reports about how the whole Amazon was one long village. History is so disgusting. 😪

Green Roc Thoughts 2h ago

@punishmenthurts Warrior clans that fought eachother and sacrificed captured enemies... One village, riiiiight 🙄

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 2h ago

@GreenRoc
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that's what the Allistic invaders say about everybody. They show up and destroy everything and when it all descends into savagery, they say it was "always like that," no it wasn't. 💜
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But I just meant it was all populated, hundreds of millions of people.
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Green Roc Thoughts 2h ago

@punishmenthurts Yup... and why I think Trump's war on non-whites exists with his failure to recognize who lived in this land first.

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 2h ago

@GreenRoc
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and that's why the Allistic monster has his eye on the arctic too, the last of the Indigenous, pre-Allistic territory on Earth. 😪
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josh susser 4h ago

@punishmenthurts did you see the orangutan that mashed up some plant and used it like a poultice to treat a wound?

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama 4h ago

@joshsusser
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rings a bell
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zoopharmacognosy is cool as fuck, huh. 😀