@sinituulia
I used to really, really like computers.
Well, I need to reach some deadlines and then I'll reinstall my work computer to Linux. Maybe, if that goes well, I might experience some mood improvements in some future after that.
@sinituulia I see computers as I have always seen them: a tool.
As with all tools, there are times when I'm glad I have it and times when I'm frustrated with it.
@sinituulia When it comes to that, I see parallels to cars. Most people just want a car that gets them somewhere with as few headaches as possible. But for some people, the car is its own thing and they spend a lot of time working on it.
I am in the first category of this metaphor lol.
@sinituulia Just like with people, it depends on the computer.
Runs a commercial OS and have a ton of bloatware? No way.
My sleek and slim Arch install that does not spy on me and has a nice comfy terminal? Heck yeah!
C++ with it's never-ending rough edges or the comfort of Rust or Go?
A game written without optimization that stutters even on strong hardware or a highly optimized game that can run on almost anything?
Software that was written by it's users where the common operations are plain and pleasant or a user interface designed in an ivory tower completely removed from practicality?
@sinituulia it really depends. I’ve been doing the computer thing for a living for close to four decades now and as a profession I’m mostly kind of over it.
Don’t mind them for working on music, playing games, or random stuff.
@sinituulia I work in tech support. I get little or no joy touching other people's computers in my daily job.
My own personal computers at home are another story - then it's playtime.
@littlefox Oh no
Yeah it's probably going to be hard to find jobs in anything that isn't the physical maintenance of something that reliably breaks down all the time, like water or electricity...
@sinituulia I would do that even, especially electricity or aircraft maintenance or something
But I live in Finland without speaking finnish, making the needed vocational training(?) a bit difficult
@sinituulia @airtower my only vocational training is software development; I did do lots of other stuff in spare time but nothing licensed
So would need some vocational training here for something else and yea
@sinituulia i like being in touch with friends and having some community that way because i don't have much community in my town.
i enjoy touching computers to make music very much.
outside of that, the experience is anywhere from meh to horrifying.
@sinituulia correct me if I'm wrong, but is the implication that modern tech has made computers less enjoyable?
I don't use computers any different now than I ever have. I'm always finding new/old shit to learn and enjoy tinkering with them as much as the day I first realized I didn't have to "color within the lines", so to speak.
The command line may be a bit more high tech than it once was, but it's still a command line.
@violent_grimes I assume it's everyone hating being forced to use the slop machines to do the work they used to do, but worse!
Having just switched to Linux and all open source some 10-11 months ago (I dabbled in the latter since forever) it's much much nicer like this, hate touching WIndows
@sinituulia
Ah yeah, I guess I've been out of the Microsoft (prison)system so long I didn't consider many of these answers were coming from folks still locked up 😜
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Y'all have the keys, just let yourselves out already. Linux is great, and Windows is only going to get worse. The only way that progression toward absolute control over your devices is ever going to stop is by these companies being obliterated.
And to be frank, there's no excuse anymore. Y'all used to use gaming as a reason why you couldn't switch, but the largest gaming distributor in the world now manufactures gaming devices that use not only the Linux kernel, but a Linux distribution, built using Arch of all things! And if the technical aspect is the fear, Ubuntu is **more** intuitive than windows. Just switch already! Modern tech ain't bad, you're just using bad modern tech.
@sinituulia
The audio software you are referring to is likely Pro Tools. Never had the opportunity to try it out, I used to use Ableton but haven't in years because it's closed source and unavailable on Linux. Probably the one proprietary tool I miss.
Serious audio production tools are the one area where Linux is still lacking. We need need an alternative to FL Studio and Abelton bad, Ardour and LMMS just can't compare.. DJs and beat makers would have jumped ship long ago if we had something for them. Audacity is fine if you're recording/editing standalone vocals but the UI looks like it hasn't had an upgrade since it was released in 2000.
@violent_grimes Pro Tools and Audacity are the only names of those I recognise! I never did much serious audio editing, but did get taught it. I was more of the school of "try and get clean audio with reasonable equipment and settings, so you never have to do too much to it" and these days I very much hope I don't have to edit audio at all. The last time I touched it maybe have been Reaper Audio Engine, unknown if it's still a thing these days. 😆
And never music production! TIL that that's still lagging on Linux. Seems like it shouldn't be, but I'm not a musician or producer...
Aye, this actually looks kind of nice! Have you used it before? I know I've installed it before and found something I didn't like enough to not continue using it, but maybe it's grown since then. Thanks!
@sinituulia There are literally hundreds of things that I would rather touch, if I’m honest.
I’ve said this out loud, haven’t I? 😳
@sinituulia one of my computers has a floppy disk drive. It still feels magical every time I turn it on. It's felt magical since the first time I touched it nearly 40 years ago.
I enjoy typing so if for no other reasons, appreciating a good keyboard goes a long way towards keeping me happy.
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