Sini TuuliaA poll: Does it still bring you joy to touch computers?
It does! I'm very excited!
Generally, yeah.
Only some of the time...
It's making me less happy than it did.
I'd rather do something else.
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Saphira Lohikäärmekettunen 
@sinituulia I have to get out somehow but have no idea how :'(
@littlefox Oh no
Yeah it's probably going to be hard to find jobs in anything that isn't the physical maintenance of something that reliably breaks down all the time, like water or electricity...
@sinituulia I would do that even, especially electricity or aircraft maintenance or something
But I live in Finland without speaking finnish, making the needed vocational training(?) a bit difficult
Fiona@littlefox @sinituulia I thought you have vocational training on electronics, whatever the exact title? Language would probably still be an issue, but within EU that education should be recognized. 
@airtower @sinituulia na, Fachinformatikerin Anwendungsentwicklung and licensed to have apprentices in Germany
@littlefox @airtower I don't know that it's written in law that you have to have Finnish language proficiency to do the work - it's part of the general curriculum with the vocational degree if you study it here, but degrees from other countries should apply at least as much as you maybe need to show proficiency if they have doubts about it being still valid in Finland due to different safety regulations etc. - but really to work you'd pretty much always need to know Finnish! Or Swedish. Technically you're supposed to be able to live a full life even if only a Swedish speaker.
@sinituulia @airtower my only vocational training is software development; I did do lots of other stuff in spare time but nothing licensed
So would need some vocational training here for something else and yea