pfriedmaMar 23
While planning reheating a casserole I was thinking, this would be a great use case for (traditional, like machine vision) AI - my oven could detect what I've put in it, and I say, I'd like this ready by 4:30 and it would just take care of it.


But also, it wasn't hard to figure the timing and temperature and punch that into my 25 year old oven that's not internet connected, doesn't require a license, and can't be remotely bricked, which...none of that is a requirement for the AI piece
..at all.. but that's what capitalism has decided is profitable...

Eventually there will probably be a market for dumb smart appliances - appliances that have smart features but that are fully supplemental and work offline.

My evse is like this. There's a separate module for the wifi/app features, but they're not required for use and you can literally unplug it and turn it into a fully offline device.
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@pfriedma Various dimensions here… Boeing versus Airbus control philosophy, with a side-helping of local and offline operations versus connected and server-based and with subscriptions, and with a side-helping of which sensors are involved if any.

My oven or refrigerator or clothes washer doesn’t need a camera, or a network connection.

I -might- be talked into a strictly-local (probably Matter & Thread) network connection for certain benign notifications, such as “done”.

But full operations while offline and disconnected is absolutely non-negotiable.

But unfortunately, I’m expecting to encounter embedded cellular data modems within new devices in the very near future, collecting and uploading metadata the purported device owner just can’t block, and presumably downloading advertisements.

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Show threadpfriedma6d ago
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Like with so many things, it's the NON inevitability of all this that gets me. Tech did not *need* to be like this to be successful or helpful. But we've been conditioned to accept always listening, always monetizing, forever advertising as the price to pay for technological convenience and it's just not necessary.

Modern tech is speedrunning unbridled capitalism
Show threadStephen Hoffman5d ago
@pfriedma What we have (and where we’re headed in this handbasket we’re in) is what happens with regulatory capture, yes.