mcc1d ago

My desire to use Mastodon is basically at zero now because post-"Claude", hanging out here means inevitably I'm going to have a conversation with someone who tolerates, or even uses, "generative AI". And what's the point of being in a community where that's a risk. Interestingly* there is absolutely no chance of this on Bluesky, because there are artists there

* And oddly, given how "AI"-brained the *admins* there are

Show threadmcc1d ago
No longer interested in talking about open source unless the conversation starts with how to build an alternate open source community without "AI code assistant" users contributing to it
Show threadBruce Simpson, Ph.D.22h ago
@mcc Sadly the Copilot monster came to #FreeBSD on GitHub last week.
Show threadtrashHeap  21h ago
@bms48 @mcc Wait, how did copilot "come" to FreeBSD ?
Show threadBruce Simpson, Ph.D.21h ago
@trashheap @mcc The LLM-driven entity is submitting AI slop bug reports and "reviews".
Show threadtrashHeap  21h ago

@bms48 @mcc Ewww...

Last I heard FreeBSD was working on a draft policy. that was leaning towards actually banning LLM code. (This was discussed at BSDCan last year). That hasn't changed has it?

Show threadmcc21h ago
@trashheap @bms48 last I heard netbsd had done this but don't cite me
Show threadfedward 21h ago
@mcc @trashheap @bms48 last summer FreeBSD leaned strongly towards no (see https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50650 ), but the more recent "accepted" change is weaker (see https://reviews.freebsd.org/D54817 ). I don't like the weasel words in the newer proposal, and the proposed "developer's guide" doc (which you have to be logged in to see) is overlong and makes it too easy to miss the actual point.
Show threadBruce Simpson, Ph.D.11h ago
@fedward @mcc @trashheap You're not going to like this, but there are FreeBSD folk who are looking to leverage Generative AI, but in a very limited and targeted way, e.g. automated code reviews. We would aim to do it in a controlled way away from Microsoft's monopolistic interest as Douglas #Rushkoff predicted would happen. It isn't a strict go/no-go area. The UK CDPA act does offer copyright protection to GenAI content but the key test is originality (system prompts must be very specific).
Show threadBruce Simpson, Ph.D.
@fedward @mcc @trashheap Rushkoff's key breakdown on this: https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/is-ai-the-next-dumbwaiter
Is AI the next Dumbwaiter?

The demand for AI's unbridled growth is reactionary — a way of doubling down on the same old colonizing way of doing things. It doesn't have to be.

Rushkoff
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