Perhaps it is because I have used Linux for quite a long time now, and it did not always work so well, but I still smile when I plug my laptop (Debian, Gnome, Wayland) into a Thunderbolt dock via USB-C shaped connector, and its display appears on multiple 4K monitors within a couple of seconds.

I unplug it, and it comes back to the laptop screen.

Screen rotation on my laptop works flawlessly.

Thank you - genuinely - to everyone who has worked on making this happen so seamlessly.

My 2026 Linux experience:

External display: just works

Screen rotation: just works

Webcam (internal, external): just works

Audio (internal, external, Bluetooth): just works

Bluetooth: just works

Wi-Fi: just works

Ethernet: just works

WWAN (integrated cellular modem): just works

Printing: just works

#Linux #Debian #Gnome

This is with a ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 6.

Neither cutting edge nor ancient - a £350ish-secondhand-on-eBay machine.

@neil
Great to hear that!

In general I experience the same. BT #bluetooth pairing with headset und 'driverless' printing brought issues in current stable #Debian trixi but seems mostly due to (non-)confirmance of manufactures i.e. Kyocera networked Sprinter.

What Sprinter do you use?

@liegerat

> What Sprinter do you use?

I print rarely (I aim to be paperless), but:

* Brother QL-710 label printer (via USB)
* Brother MFC L2750DW (via network)

I've also used a small Samsung laser via USB.

@neil
More locale (USB) and Brother, that supports standards like PLCx - I see.
@liegerat @neil I am actually amazed that I have less issues than my colleagues using Windows with the network printer we have in the office 😋
@neil
I love linux on my old thinkpad. Works like a charm. It actually gave me the confidence to buy into the new jolla phone, i hope they get it right.
@neil Wait... where the hell did you get a printer that works? I didn't think they made those, except by accident. 

@darkling Brother HL-2140

@neil

@krans @neil To be fair, one of my two printers works reliably and has been no trouble (a networked Brother colour laser).

@darkling @krans @neil

a rebadged Konica Minolta (branded Ineo) at my workplace automatically appeared on a PC via CUPS when I installed Linux Mint - didn't need to install any drivers, it was just there and printed straight out of the box (including a complex PDF document in German with many graphics)

Best printer 2025: just buy a Brother laser printer, the winner is clear, middle finger in the air

Buying any random Brother laser printer will let you print things without thinking about it too much

The Verge

@darkling

Brother, both an MFP and a label printer.

But then a cheap Samsung printer also worked easily too!

@neil @darkling we have a printer (Ricoh SP C260L colour laser) that requires a big driver/software package under Windows…

Or I just plug it into my Linux laptop, and it’s automatically detected and configured.

Same with the two Epson multifunction inkjets. Even scanning works on those with no configuration.

@darkling @neil

I have a 20++yr old #hp #laserjet and pray that it will never fall apart.

@darkling @neil

As long as it's not an HP, it will probably work fine. hP printers are just a scam to make you buy ink that won't even work

@darkling @neil my experience has flipped from that to “Linux is the OS that will talk to your printer without needing bloatware”
@neil now try casting audio (I’m not even thinking about video) to a networked speaker on your LAN. Go on, I dare you 😎

@WiteWulf

I have not tried it from my laptop, but I do it via an Intel NUC, via Lyrion Music Server, to a mix of Squeezeboxes and Sonos / Airplay 2 speakers all the time!

@neil ah, yeah, from a streaming conversant app/server isn’t so bad.

But capturing audio from a random app on the machine and casting it is still way harder than on macOS/iOS. You realise how much work goes into that when you have to roll it yourself with pipewire and chromecast sink daemons 😳

@WiteWulf I will happily take our word for it!

I do it via "wireless HDMI" quite regularly, I guess, but I don't think that that is quite what you have in mind!

@WiteWulf @neil pipewire raop works flawless with airplay devices (i speak from experience!)
@kate @neil ah, I’ve not seen raop! Will look into that.
@WiteWulf @neil unfortunately not enabled in pipewire by default, but it's pretty easy to enable via the config files

@WiteWulf @kate

I think that it is a raop plugin that I am using via Lyrion Music Server, for airplay support.

@neil same for me with Fedora… I keep thinking I should try other distros but it’s really hard to leave something that just works in this day and age (although I have a spare old laptop running MX Linux / KDE which is growing on me)

@neil Just works it's my experience as well except ... internal WWAN

😭

Get it working it's a bit of arcane magic. Sometimes it does work, sometimes it doesn't (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xmm7360-pci)

Xmm7360-pci - ArchWiki

@neil might wanna try Slackware for a change?
@Lioh Ha!
@neil @Lioh I was going to recommend Haiku if you miss the good old days of fiddling.

@neil Printing and scanning with my HP printer works better on Linux than on Windows!

I’m using Linux on my desktop PC about 50% of the time and this has been my experience too. The only issues I’ve had have been NVIDIA driver related. It’s fantastic :)

@neil 💯. I've just installed Mint Linux on a refurbished PC as an upgrade (Windows replacement) for a community project on Mull. As you say, stuff just works (printers, scanners, video, legacy file formats), and it's quick and simple to install. It is amazing. I need to check I'm financially supporting my favourite FOSS tools. 😊

@neil I have a new powerful ThinkPad with Windows 11 at work.

I have weird issues several times per week. It’s such a toy OS.

@holsta I am not familiar with Windows 11, thankfully, but I see friends and clients using it from time to time, and it just looks so cluttered and intrusive! But I also appreciate that I may be biased.
@neil @holsta There are ways to remove a fair amount of the crap. But not all of it.

What bugs me about Windows 11 (Work laptop) is the limited, poor colour choices, lack of good high contrast options, especially around borders and title bars - the number of times I've closed the wrong window. Also, why do some new windows hide and not grab the focus?

It's bliss to get back to my Mint/KDE Plasma desktop and Fedora Laptop.

@neil I have a cutting edge ThinkPad P16 gen 3 from January. I do have minor issues with Thunderbolt 5, and I don't have WWAN or screen rotation, but Webcam, Audio, BlueTooth, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, and Printing "just work" with no issues.

Printing is going a bit *too* well, since my laptop happily offers to print to an unreasonably large number of printers (50?) when I connect to the library WiFi.

@neil Yes. Not nostalgic for needing to find a WiFi driver somewhere else and having to introduce it via sneakernet!
@neil Its been years since I had to mess with xorg.conf or equivalents, device support has gotten so much better, and yet the main reason we might get "the year of the linux desktop" is still how inexplicably bad windows has become.
@unlofl Yes, the human factor!
@neil mine’s been less good: everything works seamlessly except the laptop screen which just stopped working randomly after a few weeks. Currently a laptop which can only be used as a desktop. (Brand new Framework.) Still better than anything I use with Windows 11 on it though.
@tomdewar Yikes. Hardware, or software?
@neil not sure yet, I think hardware a bit more likely. Will be contacting Framework support as soon as I’m confident it’s not some really dumb user error ;) It’s a lovely machine otherwise!

@neil my gnome restarts the shell every time I try to connect to a phone with a bluetooth adapter connected. I have one onboard, but it doesn't work well.

And Gnome has removed the possibility to choose what BT adapter to use. Oh Ubuntu vibes...

@neil everything works fine on my latest Linux computer too, great graphical output, HDR is top-notch under Wayland, audio is fine even though it's still using pulseaudo. Onboard LAN is surprisingly crap at 100Mb/sec but a dongle and WiFi still work fine

I am of course referring to my LG TV running webOS

@neil a fucking men.

Remember the days of Xorg config fuckery to set up screens?

We've come a long long way
@mindpersephone @neil I don't miss Xorg configs at all. Though at the time, I had a laptop with an 800x480 screen - and setting an arcane-magic modeline felt excitingly better than needing to find a Windows driver.
@mindpersephone @neil I just stumbled on an old config file with timings and sync values and ugh!!!!
@neil same! It's a beautiful thing!

@neil Magnificent, isn't it?

When I think back to those days of trying to get my damned modem working in Linux Mandrake ...

@hedders Yes, a lot has changed!
@hedders @neil I can’t remember the last time I had to recompile a Linux kernel. And that’s a very good thing.

@WiteWulf @hedders @neil

20 years using Linux daily. I have never had to recompile anything.

@hedders @neil Oh man, winmodems were such a pain. At least "normal" modems could be configured with AT commands... so glad I stopped using dialup in about 1999 when I got my first broadband, but I had to "support" friends and family with it for years after. Usually on windoze...

By the time Mandrake came round, broadband was a fixture in my life, so never had to wrangle modems with it. Was a good distro though - I used it up until Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog came out.

@neil I get this feeling, when I connect speakers via USB/Bluetooth/Line and they just work seamlessly.

In 2010 I wrote alsa rules for things like this.

@neil Yeah, I recently put Ubuntu on an iMac, for the purpose of copying some videos off MiniDV tapes.

Now, there were many small issues - the fans ran at full speed for no reason - the screen kept locking after 5 minutes, and getting dvgrab working required a dozen web searches and extensive use of my UNIX sysadmin skills…

But once I dialled it in, I downloaded 30 tapes worth of video from 2001 through 2011, easily.