The fact that grandparents can sue for visitation with their grandkids in some provinces is absolutely fucked, to me. I imagine there are safeguards and, obviously, there are exceptions, but I'd argue there's generally a good reason when a parent doesn't want their own parents to have any contact with their children.

It is WILD how often people sympathize with the shitty parent instead of the kid who, against instinct and all social pressure, decided to go no-contact with their parent.

Absolutely fucking wild.

If your adult kids don't talk to you, that's absolutely a huge red flag. I don't care how "nice" you seem.

Rarely, this doesn't apply, sure. RARELY.

I can't remember where I heard this, but somebody once said, "If they can't control you, they'll try to control how others see you."
@PacificNic I had no idea. Makes no damn sense to me either. 
@PacificNic Actually a great observation. We're conditioned to believe the parents. Social norms. Some of those *blind eye* things caused forever trauma on the children

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What’s fucked up about it is that is cast in the frame of ‘grandparent’s rights’, which like ‘parent’s rights’ are bullshit. No one should have rights over children; we are guardians and promoters of a child’s rights on their behalf, and only while they can’t themselves. Children may have opinions, we should listen unless we genuinely think harm will come to them.