tixnoucrazy stuff
GrailThis says a lot about the average carnist mindset. A lot of people have no idea their meat comes from dead animals. I think there would be a lot more vegans if people knew and were fully aware of the consequences
But did you know that to eat vegetables, you actually kill them? An innocent life form - dead, just so you can eat. How can you live with yourself?
Vegetables don’t care if they die, but animals do. Animals don’t like dying. I’ve asked lots of animals and very few of them were suicidal.
MinnesotaGoddamSo it’s funny You bring that up because i had a fish that was very definitely suicidal. we did not eat him though.
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, give a man a suicidal fish give him PTSD for a lifetime.
We gave it a clean 200 gal tank, friends, food that it was really picky about (he only wanted to eat the tails of the feeder goldfish. We told him he had to eat the entire things. He refused. So we ended up having these three feeder fish with half missing tails called Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner swimming around in the tank with our fancy fish because dumb old Oliver bit they butts off but wouldn’t finish the job. Eventually Oliver died by flight, the tails finished growing back, we dug a pond, and Breakfast Lunch abs Dinner moved outside to become our koi. 25 cent feeders. They got huge. Gorgeous. A friend who waited tables at a Japanese restaurant offered to buy them for the restaurant because he thought they were koi and not 25 cent feeder goldfish. We liked him so we said no, go spend your own 50 cents. He thought it was hilarious. Next week we went to get sushi and their koi fountain was full of feeder goldfish.
Suicideel is my spirit animal.
“Fuck you, I’m taking you with me!”
I’ve asked lots of plants and none of them were suicidal. it didn’t matter how damaged they were, they just kept fighting to live.
don’t you think that’s justification enough to show that plant lives matter?
well then it’s not justifiable to assume animals have a stronger desire to live since when you shoot them, they just die.
if animals didn’t want to be eaten, they should have evolved to not be so tasty.
well, you can cut the whole head of lettuce off and it will grow back.
try doing that to a cow…not so much…
Well there you fucking go, don’t you? You don’t need to kill lettuce to eat it, but you do need to kill cows to eat them. So stop the killing and have a salad.
I think you’re forgetting about industrial farms (that supply food for the majority of people). they don’t just regrow the plants. they harvest and butcher them to make room for new sprouts.
did you ever stop and ask a lettuce if it wanted to be eaten? Lettuce is disgusting, it evolved to be gross. Can’t say that for steak makers.
But industrial farms that supply meat for the majority of people make meat out of plants. Corn, mostly. So lots of corn has to die for one steak to be made.
then we should all just starve, because all life is sacred.
SavinDWhalesMine are. They always die on me. :(
insurrection"Vegetables don't care if they die, but animals do. Animals don't like dying."
there simply isn't proof for claims like this
I’ve got two questions for you:
Do you identify as a member of the kingdom animalia?
Do you wanna die?
say what you want to say. I don't care for your interrogation.
we have something we haven't been able to prove exists in any other animal: knowledge that we, ourselves, might die. animal cognitive behaviorists call this understanding personal mortality, and every time they get close to it, I've seen them go out of their way to say they don't have proof any other animal understands personal mortality.
if you have an animal cognitive behavioral study that claims otherwise, I'd be happy to read it.
An animal doesn’t need to understand dying in order to dislike it. You can just repeatedly stab a dog until it dies, and it will voice its displeasure. I’ve never done that, but I understand the science is quite firm on the matter.
this isn't proof of understanding personal mortality
Fortunately, I already moved the goalposts beyond the need for understanding. I said they don’t like dying, I didn’t say squat about understanding dying.
if you want to just live in your feelings about this instead of relying on the science, I can't stop you. but anyone else who reads this should understand that what you claimed simply isn't scientific fact.
So anyway, here’s the science on pain at slaughter
The results demonstrate clearly, for the first time, that the act of slaughter by ventral-neck incision is associated with noxious stimulation that would be expected to be painful in the period between the incision and subsequent loss of consciousness.
it’s fucking disgusting. vegans willingness to destroy a life just because it doesn’t have eyes, or ears, or a mouth is just evil.
I hope all vegans reincarnate as iceburg lettuce and rot in the bottom of the crisper.
smooth brain
Soft and gooey too!
A lot of people have no idea their meat comes from dead animals.
I’d like to meet these a lot of people
And eat them
It’s not cannibalism if you don’t know where meat comes from!
There’s nothing from this commentor to suggest that THEY eat meat. The only thing we know about them is that they’re an idiot.
And statistically, their idiocy means they probably eat meat.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1790759/
Higher IQ at age 10 years was associated with an increased likelihood of being vegetarian at age 30
IQ remained a statistically significant predictor of being vegetarian as an adult after adjustment for social class (both in childhood and currently), academic or vocational qualifications, and sex
Ellen G. White can suck it.
Sarah Valentine (she/her)Correlation does not mean causation.
Maybe adult vegetarianism caused childhood IQ. You’ve gotta take those psychic powers into account, maybe there’s time travel involved
Great hypothesis! You should test it.
/s right?
I think people use compartmentalisation to avoid thinking about the consequences when they eat. I bet if you went to a slaughterhouse and saw the death, and if you read the science on the effect they have on local communities
the effectA study looked at a series of small towns in pairs. One where a slaughterhouse opened, one where it didn’t. The towns with slaughterhouses saw increased alcoholism, mental health issues, spousal abuse…. Taking lives all day long, it damages your soul. You have to become a worse person in order to survive that. A crueler person. It hurts your ability to treat other humans with kindness and respect.
, and you remembered all of that every single time you ate meat for a month, by the end of that month you’d want to go vegetarian.
Sure thing, https://www.jstor.org/stable/26161933
this isn't proof of causation. it's pure post hoc ergo propter hoc
They controlled for every other cause of the results that had been claimed. Nobody has any idea how they could have gotten those results, except from the addition of the slaughterhouse.
Do you want to submit an alternative hypothesis?
sure: people are different and unpredictable.
Random chance? No, reports and arrests of violent crime were significantly influenced by slaughterhouse employment when controlling for other potential causes, with a P value less than one in a hundred. The probability that random chance produced results as strong as this is less than one in a hundred. Random chance didn’t cause these results. People are predictable, and this was no fluke.
I see and appreciate your willingness to eat downvotes for that joke.
If only they were as smart as you, and they could figure out that chicken comes from chickens, or that fish comes from fish. They just never put 2+2 together.
Liar. I’ve never seen chicken come from chickens. All the chicken I’ve ever seen has come out of the grocery store.
Yes, but who do you think crochets all that meat into a chicken shape?
Every single person, at most past the age of 12 knows exactly where all the meat comes from. Usually much younger.
“If vegans were not so obnoxious idiots, maybe more people would listen to them”.
Every single person, at most past the age of 12 knows exactly where all the meat comes from
Almost two thirds could not identify the correct location of a rump steak – despite the clue being in the name - while only 36 per cent could identify that a pork shoulder steak came from the shoulder of a pig.
More than 80 per cent of respondents could not find the part of a cow that a ribeye steak comes from, while only nine per cent said they knew where a Barnsley chop came from on a lamb.
A quarter admitted they felt confused, did not know what to buy and don’t understand what is on display in their local butcher’s shop
You said every person over 12 knows exactly where all the meat comes from. But 80% of British people don’t know where a ribeye steak comes from!
What bullshit is this?
I’m not a steak fan and have no clue which parts of a cow all the different cuts come from. I DO KNOW that they all come from a dead cow.
Your argument was:
A lot of people have no idea their meat comes from dead animals
Then you said:
But 80% of British people don’t know where a ribeye steak comes from!
Stop acting clueless so you can twist his words. They don’t need to know where a ribeye whatever comes from to know it comes from a cow. Which disproves your argument.