When you talk about people you make them important. I want to think more about who I choose to make important.

Even if you are criticizing someone, burying their bad ideas with logic and all the knives of science you're still making them and their ideas important.

You can expect me to talk about Iain M. Banks more and the questions I have about his work.

It's why it's probably is a good idea to do a critical review of Newitz and their "Terraformers" which I also have questions about.

I'm sick of criticizing people I don't like, you know. Let's argue about cool people instead.

@futurebird Ooh, OK. My starter. I think Iain M. Banks wrote slightly better books as Iain Banks, than Iain M. Banks. Controversial I know.

He wrote my favourite opening line of a book ever.

"It was the day my grandmother exploded"

@eclectech @futurebird The Wasp Factory really really got to me ... can't think of one particular scene without feeling queasy ...
@eclectech @futurebird (which I think is good writing btw but I do find it very difficult to reread that book)

@mherbert @eclectech

I couldn't put it down, but I was NOT having a good time.

@futurebird @mherbert This thread is making me want to reread Banks in general (it is a long while since I have read them) but The Wasp Factory won't be the one I start on, even though it was the first of his I read as an impressionable teen.
@eclectech @futurebird my first was Use of Weapons which I think was a far tamer introduction ...

@mherbert @eclectech @futurebird

As long as you noticed the chapter names the first time. I was deeply confused the first time I read that book because I didn’t realise that it started in the middle and went forwards and backwards in time in alternating chapters (made slightly more confusing by one of the chapters being a near-death experience where he has a flashback to even earlier).

I took it on a trip where I had a lot more time than I expected, so probably read it seven or eight times as a teenager. I’ve reread it a few times as an adult, but a few of the later books knocked it down my list of favourite Culture novels.

@david_chisnall @eclectech @futurebird interesting ... the story is definitely disjoint but I had not twigged that it was explicitly laid out like that ... can see it now you point it out though ...

@mherbert @eclectech @futurebird

The clue is the chapter numbers. The forwards timeline has Arabic numbers that count up, the backwards timeline has Roman numerals that count down. Once you notice this, it makes sense. I tried once reading it in chronological order but it’s less good: the backwards bits of the story have revelations that explain things in the forward timeline and are introduced at the important point in the narrative.

@david_chisnall @eclectech @futurebird huh ... will bump that up the to-reread pile ...