@lispi314
Cause you can make money with it. When you look at China you always need to differentiate between what they allow inside of China and what they allow outside.
Outside it's mostly "everything goes" except for fraud. They still prosecute that as it would undermine their position in the world if people would get worried about "not receiving" the thing they paid for. So you generally always get the thing, but it may not be what you thought it would aka. "monkeys pawed".
When you actually talk to people that were there then they tell you that their "social credit system" is way less "getting in the way" than our "wester" equivalents with credit scores. And it apparently isn't nearly as Black mirror as it gets painted in media here.
However on the other hand they regulate how many hours per day you're allowed to do things like online gaming using a governmental ID and age verification system.
Oh and what esp. in the US is also often projected onto a social credit system is that you can't be the worst human being possible in ingame chats and expect there to be no consequences.
You will get banned for insulting and harassing people and you also will get prosecuted for it. And because they have your account bound to your ID you also can't just make another account and re-buy the game to continue...
Can't say anything to the part about predictive policing which is what I think you're implying with the last part of your post though.
Well I don't think we've to worry about China getting into predictive policing while our own police here in "the west" is basically already doing it and wants to extend the efforts using stuff like Palantir and data bought from advertising agencies and platforms...
Edit: Except you're in China of course.
Ok, on that note I just don't think that China needs it for that. I feel like they're currently more focused on the making money with it part...
True, but they already had good enough things so far, so I also don't really know what they'd use it for.
But as always time will tell and we'll see. In the mean time we should focus at the cluster fuck of surveillance in front of our own doorsteps...
All of this is still a bit too much China bashing for me. Ultimately it is up to the citizens of China to work it out with their government.
Well I ment in the discussion we both had just now. Where do you get the part about Romania from?!?
Sorry didn't get that in the moment.
Germany has it in some parts (even though it is technically not legal). It is currently one of the fights going on here. Esp. because they want to role out even more Palantir shit. (You're selling moving to Romania quite hard right now, btw)
Then at the EU level well the #ageverification and #idwallet (EU Digital Identity Wallets) surveillance bullshit and all.
Well have you seen what the church has been getting away with here in Germany? That's nothing new.
(Also many figures in the church are actually Vatican diplomats and have diplomatic immunity too)
And thereby you're selling it as "only half of the problems" :P
@agowa338 @reiddragon That really only works if they're willing to prosecute.
South Korea tried it and their net was not any less toxic. The contrary, apparently.
Because people that would've spoken otherwise were just avoiding the system or actively blocked by it in various ways instead.
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