nixCraft 🐧1d ago
systemd lost the plot a long time ago. they stopped following the Unix philosophy and now they're busy adding nonsense like age verification. Just like Firefox, systemd doesn't understand its core user base. There are plenty of distros without systemd
Show threadNazo1d ago

@nixCraft It really has been taking a very wrong direction for quite some time. Lots of bloat and unnecessary components, poor standards, etc etc.

Apparently OpenRC is a really good alternative, but it comes at the catch that a lot of stuff is built to call systemd a dependency and will claim it can't work without it. *Sigh* Hopefully all this will result in a general switch away from that hot mess and proper support from everything for, well, anything else...

Show threadbazkie 👩🏼‍💻 bitplanes 🎵1d ago

@nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft blegh! this type of dependency on something that should be totally independent is a sign of structural failure, i suppose..

i've been a debian fanby for the longest time but maybe it's time to look into other distros. can anyone recommend me which are the most "mainstream"/well-maintained non-systemd distros?

Show threadNazo1d ago

@bazkie @nixCraft

blegh! this type of dependency on something that should be totally independent is a sign of structural failure, i suppose..

Exactly this.

Systemd has completely lost sight of its entire purpose. It should be simple, minimal, and just get the job done. It sure shouldn't become... this...

(And I too am a Debian person. I kind of don't really want to switch right now though.)

Show threadSnosrapkungfu (They/them)1d ago
@nazokiyoubinbou @bazkie @nixCraft i wonder if whatever junk theyre putting into systemd would be cut short by running the debian to ageless conversion script? i'd hope so #agelesslinux https://agelesslinux.org/
Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

Show threadnieuemma1d ago
@snosrapkungfu @nazokiyoubinbou @bazkie @nixCraft I don't believe that script does anything but change the OS name.
Show threadNazo
@nieuemma @snosrapkungfu @bazkie @nixCraft Most of it does seem to be just about making a point and I can't read all of it, but I do see a few lines that are supposed to actually modify the user's birth date to 1970-01-01 or blank depending on which mode one uses. (Assuming that /etc/userdb/username is correct anyway.) And for some reason it can set a script that says it does it again once a day every day. I'm not too sure it's a good idea to mess with the release name and such necessarily though. I think this one is just about making the point more than anything and should only be used by people who don't mind their system (pretty much completely literally) saying "I'm breaking a law on purpose" specifically to make a point.
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Show threadnieuemma23h ago
@nazokiyoubinbou @snosrapkungfu @bazkie @nixCraft Awesome info, thank you. I read their webpage like a week ago and it didn't seem like it changed a lot.
Show threadNazo23h ago

@nieuemma @snosrapkungfu @bazkie @nixCraft From what little I can tell it doesn't change a lot. It sets the userdb birthdate and keeps changing it and it sets the ID to its name as you said. It also throws in an arbitrary script that just simply says something to the effect of "error, unable to determine age" or whatever in a folder of its own that nothing would ever call. 😆

Basically every single part of it is more just for show than anything else. The one and only thing it does seriously I'm pretty sure people can manually do if this script can do it — without the potential breakage of the system identifying itself differently.

They also plan to do a "flatpak store for children" with stuff like an app that prints the text "peepee" really big. Like I said, it's all for show...