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supersquirrel Mar 15

It honestly hurts my brain and I would be more inclined to laugh about it if it didn’t hurt my heart so badly to see discussion of the Palestinian Genocide so clearly silenced by people like Jordan Lund.

jordanlund Mar 15

You aren’t being silenced, you were re-directed to the appropriate community which is [email protected] , not !politics.

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supersquirrel Mar 15

You just banned me from !politics, which would be the definition of silencing?

lemmy.world/post/44253357

jordanlund Mar 15

I temp banned you for three days after you repeatedly failed to follow the clear guidelines I gave you.

When the ban expires, you’re welcome to post US Politics articles back in Politics as you did here (excellent post BTW):

If you insist on posting “Israel bad!” to a community specifically for US Politics, you will get banned again.

Israel / Gaza = Goes in [email protected]

Things actually involving US Politics goes in Politics.

This is why separate communities exist.

Democrats introduce ‘Justice for Hind Rajab Act’ as film about her death gains Oscar buzz - Lemmy.World

> Rajab was a six-year-old Palestinian girl from Gaza whose agonising death at the hands of Israeli soldiers on 29 January 2024 has become symbolic of the widespread violations of international humanitarian law committed during Israel’s genocide in the enclave, where over 72,000 Palestinians have been killed.

anarchiddy Mar 16

To say that Israel and Gaza arent predominant political issues in US politics is just straight up denial

jordanlund Mar 16

They CAN be political issues, notably AIPAC interference in US elections, but the removed articles has ZERO connection to US Politics which is the stated purpose of [email protected]

Please feel free to review the removed articles, note how none of them mention any connection to US Politics, Policy, or Politicians.

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Ensign_Crab Mar 17

There’s always an excuse to actively censor anything or anyone who makes every centrist’s god netanyahu look bad.

Always.

jordanlund Mar 17

It’s not censorship to say “this is not the correct community for this, the one you want is over here.”

Ensign_Crab Mar 17

It is when you mod “over there” and make up excuses for removing anti-genocide content everywhere you can abuse your petty authority.

lemmy.world/post/44364907

jordanlund Mar 18

You must not be looking at the same [email protected] that I am then:

Current anti-Israel posts that are up right now:

lemmy.world/post/44338219

lemmy.world/post/44367655

lemmy.world/post/44356592

Not as many as usual, but Iran is pulling focus right now so that’s not unusual.

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Ensign_Crab Mar 18

Current anti-Israel posts that are up right now:

I’m sorry you aren’t clever enough to think of excuses for all of them.

jordanlund Mar 18

I only remove things that break the rules and explicitly state why.

My favorite one recently was in Politics about how China was going to the moon. LOL.

Not US and not Politics. Removed.

I only remove things that break the rules

You remove things you disagree with and torture logic to make an excuse.

Winning any argument with you is “sealioning,” as an example.

lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=5…

You keep talking out of your ass because you got banned. Welcome to PTB!

Modlog - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Biden knew the weapons were being used for genocide, because everyone knew. He sold them anyway. He broke US law to do so.

And you cannot admit that.

Biden can’t be both mentally infirm and an evil genius. LOL.

Biden repeatedly described himself as a Zionist, but meant it in the old use of the term… Supporting a Jewish state in the wake of the Holocaust. Remember, Biden is SUPER old.

Biden supported genocide. Just like you.

ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/…/article-2?activeTab

LOL. You spout words with zero comprehension.

Let me break it down one last time:

There is a specific definition for genocide, any single one of these is enough to justify a call of genocide:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? ✅
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ✅

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? ✅
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ✅

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? Not yet, give it a minute.
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ❌

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? Not quite yet, ETA in 3-2-1… The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ❌

The most you could say is that by NOT acting, the US is guilty of C, but failing to take action is not the same thing as “deliberately inflicting.”

We have laws preventing us from selling weapons that we know will be used for genocide. You may pretend to believe that breaking those laws, as Biden did, is not genocide support. But you know better. Biden supported genocide and you’re pretending he didn’t because you’re a pro-genocide liar.

Prove he knew and did it anyway. Find any public statement allowing Israel to do this. You can’t because he didn’t.

Israel is guilty of genocide, you’re welcome to blame the killers. Don’t blame Biden because you have a hard on to hate America.

en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_U.S._officials_who_res…

There is your proof fool, Biden’s staff began resigning to try to desperately get the message through.

Also it is pathetic y’all locked the thread on your community but you can’t resist still arguing about it here. Pick a lane.

List of U.S. officials who resigned over Biden's support for Israel in the Gaza war - Wikipedia

If I quit my job because I think my boss is a terrorist, it doesn’t mean they actually ARE, just that I believe they are. 😉

The thread in the community was locked because it’s off topic. I always lock removed threads.

But if you REALLY want the conversation, I mean REALLY want it, why have you STILL not posted the removed articles to [email protected]

Genuinely asking. The articles you posted were GOOD articles, just not appropriate for [email protected]

Folks who make honest mistakes in posting generally just go “Oh, sorry” and re-post it in a place that is appropriate:

(directed them to [email protected] )

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Biden supports genocide and so do you.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor

“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

Hitchens's razor - Wikipedia

What can be proven is Biden had power over Netanyahu, Biden knew the reality of the Genocide and had the easy capability to learn all he wanted, and he chose to do nothing but attack leftists for bringing it up.

That is enough to damn someone to going to hell, so I am fine with just evidence of that.

foxnews.com/…/israel-netanyahu-biden-war-counsel

Biden had NO power over Netanyahu.

brookings.edu/…/in-israel-why-netanyahu-humiliate…

nytimes.com/…/gaza-israel-biden-netanyahu.html

Netanyahu says he ignored Biden's war counsel – and threats that Israel would be 'left alone' without US help

Netanyahu made no secret of his feelings toward Joe Biden after Donald Trump was elected this month, publicly revealing he'd ignored the current U.S. president's counsel and threats to withhold aid.

Fox News

The first article you link me is from Fox News?

The second is from 2010.

The third is paywalled and from the NYT which has a well established history of not only failing to cover the Palestinian Genocide with journalistic integrity but also in not questioning the US government’s narratives about war in general even when they are egregiously wrong as in the case with the Iraq War and Weapons Of Mass Destruction.

Also why are you still talking with me? Why don’t you unlock the thread where this discussion is more topical on Lemmy.World support so we can talk there?

How does it make sense to lock that one and continue to engage in this one?

Defend your behavior as it appears extemely immature and also… come up with better sources.

Again, everyone acknowledges Netanyahu completely, utterly, played Biden.

Please cite evidence that Biden did not want to be played, that Biden did not at the very least turn a willing blind eye to massively minimize his part in the crime here.

euronews.com/…/biden-called-netanyahu-a-liar-and-…

“Biden unleased a profanity-laden tirade over Netanyahu after the Israeli military entered Rafah calling him a “liar”, and a “bad guy”, saying that the Israeli leader had “no strategy.””

Biden called Netanyahu a 'liar' over conduct in Gaza, new book reveals

The book, written by well-known journalist Bob Woodward, details extensive, behind-the-scenes reporting on both Biden and Trump.

euronews

Words like those are vanishingly cheap.

nbcnews.com/…/biden-disparages-netanyahu-private-…

You wanted proof, I bring the receipts. 😉

“Biden has said he is trying to get Israel to agree to a cease-fire, but Netanyahu is “giving him hell” and is impossible to deal with”

www.cnn.com/2024/…/biden-netanyahu-israel-gaza

“In private, Biden has been more willing to offer unvarnished thoughts on Netanyahu, including his deep irritation that the Israeli prime minister has not followed through on American recommendations to de-escalate military tactics in Gaza.”

apnews.com/…/biden-netanyahu-hot-mic-gaza-885b97a…

“Biden then responds using Netanyahu’s nickname, saying, “I told him, Bibi, and don’t repeat this, but you and I are going to have a ‘come to Jesus’ meeting.””

And my personal favorite:

huffpost.com/…/biden-sparred-netanyahu-gaza-israe…

“Bibi, what the fuck?” Biden yelled after the attack, according to Woodward. “You know the perception of Israel around the world increasingly is that you’re a rogue state, a rogue actor.”

Biden disparages Netanyahu in private but hasn’t significantly changed U.S. policy toward Israel and Gaza

As the reported Palestinian death toll in Gaza reaches 28,000, Biden continues to believe that unequivocally supporting Israel is the right policy.

NBC News

Do you think this demonstrates a meaningful resistance to Netanyahu? These are all words, heard second hand, conveyed in private. They are not actions.

Failing to take action does not equal Biden endorsing the actions.

It’s absolutely clear Biden endorsed NONE of this and at the same time it’s equally clear that Netanyahu does not give a single solitary fuck what the US says and is going to keep on killing people.

en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_U.S._officials_who_res…

Then why did all these Biden officials feel the need to drive their career into a ditch by resigning because of how they felt about Biden’s response to the Palestinian Genocide?

List of U.S. officials who resigned over Biden's support for Israel in the Gaza war - Wikipedia

axios.com/…/aipac-illinois-primary-biss-abughazal…

Because while Biden expressed his views privately, he refused a public break with Israel, something that would have doomed his campaign as well as Harris’s campaign had she run with it.

Trump would have rolled his frequent line of “I’m the best thing that ever happened to Israel” and nothing Biden or Harris could say would counter that.

If you want to see what happens when US Politicians oppose Israel, you don’t have to look any further than the Illinois primaries last Tuesday:

AIPAC finally notches some Democratic primary wins

Two AIPAC-backed candidates won their House races, though several others fell short.

Axios

What happened when the mayor at the center of the second largest concentration of Jews on earth ran without AIPAC money.

jewishtimes.com/what-zohran-mamdani-has-actually-…

“During the long mayoral primary campaign, Mamdani repeatedly said that Israel has a right to exist. But he usually qualifies that statement by adding that Israel is flouting its responsibilities under international law, based on its treatment of Palestinians.

He has also been asked if Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. As he stated at a town hall in May with the UJA-Federation of New York, co-moderated by the New York Jewish Week’s Lisa Keys: It should exist “with equal rights for all.””

Biden -

wilsoncenter.org/…/bidens-stance-palestinian-isra…

“President Biden’s reiteration that the only way forward to maintain Israel’s security is through the two-state solution is consistent with the administration’s approach from day one.”

What Zohran Mamdani Has Actually Said About Jews and Israel

What has Zohran Mamdani actually said about Israel, Jews and the conflict in the Middle East?

Baltimore Jewish Times