i have been using it and it’s been fine

but it buzzes now

and also cuts out if you draw more than low power

note

THIS IS NOT THE POWER SUPPLY I FIXED BEFORE it’s different

anyway it’s rated for 10A but is dying being asked for intermittent 6.5

and nothing is obviously hot

so yeah

what’s it likely to be? power transistors?

#PowerSupply #Zzt #repair

@moira The buzzing is probably coil whine in the transformer, from some subharmonic of the switching frequency that happens to be in the audible range.

It's possible there's a bad capacitor somewhere, like in the feedback for the controller, or if the power transistors have a snubber circuit.

@toroidalcore it seemed too low pitch for transformer whine but I didn't think about lower harmonics so maybe that's it

capacitors are easy to check, at least. ^_^

(this is not the same model as the one with the splody cap and the values are all different so ... sure hope I have some lol)

thanks ^_^

@moira You can get weird effects if something goes a little bit unstable, or unstable during certain load conditions. It's kind of hard to say without poking around with a meter or scope.

Good luck!

@toroidalcore @moira if it sounds more like buzzing, it could be the core laminations becoming, er, de-laminated. try squeezing the core (in the direction that squeezes the laminations together) and see if that helps at all.

admittedly this is more common with older, larger transformers.

@wohali @toroidalcore oh it's buzzy for sure

i'm kind of afraid of operating it with the case off given the previous [POW] incident tho'

@moira

Do you have access to an oscilloscope by any chance? I'd be curious what the output looks like when it's doing that.

@wohali

@toroidalcore @wohali well guess what's not making the noise and not cutting out anymore

so it must be heat dependant and there must've been some heat even tho' i didn't feel any

@toroidalcore @wohali WHELP we're back

big voltage drop and the buzz, gimmie a sec for recording

@toroidalcore @wohali and it's leaking 60hz (at very low AC voltage) at all times, I didn't check that before

also I thought the buzz was higher pitched than I'm hearing now but I could be just remembering that wrong

@moira

Is that AC-coupled? That looks like the AC component on top of the DC output. What DC output voltage are you expecting from it?
@wohali

@toroidalcore @wohali It is an AC component on top of DC. I'm expecting 12V, I'm also getting some millivolts of AC leakage at 60Hz, which is the cycle of our AC power.

@moira @toroidalcore that's not terrible AC overlay, but it could be improved with better output filtering.

i assume you're not getting the voltage you expect here? or is it just a buzzing?

as always with these things, suspect the electrolytic capacitors. look for any leakage or funny smell.

here's a very good intro video to how SMPS work if you need one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyXqNcqvRM

Every Component of a Switch Mode Power Supply Explained

YouTube

@wohali @toroidalcore oh now when it buzzes it's dropping voltage like a mofo

and quick, too

this is all new, none of this was happening until this afternoon so something yearns to fuck off into the sea

@moira @wohali I second the electrolytic caps having a good chance of being the culprit, but if possible it would be interesting to look at the switching signal to the transistor, and maybe the feedback.

I have to go to sleep, but will check in in the morning.

@toroidalcore @moira yeah, you could try checking the voltage at pin 6 on the IC, but since this can sink/source up to 1A of current through the totem pole config inside the IC you may not see as much as you'd like. be sure you are running on battery power for that oscope of course if you do this! we like an alive moira.

@wohali @toroidalcore oo, someone wants me _alive_ this time, that _is_ new

xD

the tiny scope is hilarious and only battery so we are 1000% safe there

this hasn't been running not, it's been running quite cool which is why the big surprise. it also only has a couple of weeks of use on it, tho' many hours a day during those weeks.

the 6.5A draw is barely more than momentary, most of the time it's drawing .21A according to my bench supply.

The big cap says "nichicon" but I'm rolling to disbelieve. the rest seem to be nonames