@randahl weird to imagine anyone wouldn’t instantly recognize this as #AIslop. There’s a disconnect between the mouth movements and the voice.

@Crow @randahl Yes, but this isn't just an AI problem. I've been working in sound for picture since way before AI joined the party and there has been a marked slide in the acceptance levels for lip sync in video editing software and common workflows. I can't even relax when I watch TV if I'm looking at the mouths. And so many Netflix viewers watch dubbed versions of foreign shows without even noticing it wasn't filmed in English. The dubbing has been happening since, oh I doubt the Jazz Singer was dubbed into foreign languages, but not long after that, and it's one of the many examples of technology making things worse in our business. We used to edit "deep fakes" with razor blades and open reel tape and I swear we did it better.

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A lot of the blame is on the playback devices. My crappy Samsung TV can not get sound to synch with vision reliably and the Apple TV never does. It's so much easier to keep sound in synch when editing these days, compared to when you needed a chinagraph pencil and a Steenbeck.
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@stib @Crow @randahl True, but it's also easier to mess it up. The amount of time the dialog editors have to spend chasing sync has gone way up in my career. I used to be confident that the guide track was in sync, then for awhile had to say "that's the picture editor's job: give me a guide track in sync and I will deliver a finished dialog track in sync," and get it from them. Now I play it for the director in sync with the guide track and the director says "oh, that's from the camera that records audio 2 frames out of sync," and say "isn't that your job?" when I ask why no one had thought to fix that earlier. (True story.)

@kingtor @Crow @randahl What camera is that? Is it a double head system? I can't work out how you'd go about setting it up to be capable of doing this on the cameras I work with (Ursa, FX6, Red Dragon).

@stib @Crow @randahl Oh, I don't know. I think it was a consumer Hi8 or some bull...oney. And from what very little I know about the Hi8 format, it was likely a problem ingesting the footage and would've been best fixed then.