Imperatrix Siina 
i love how systemd makes boot and shutdown so much slower lmao. especially shutdown.
Kevin Karhan 
Major Denis Bloodnok@kkarhan @siina IDGI - about the time systemd was rearing its ugly head, my then employer issued me the first machine I ever used with an SSD, which booted (with sysvinit) too fast to comfortably read the boot messages, just like every subsequent such machine I've used. The first time I started it I thought something was _wrong_. It's not clear one can get usefully much faster than that.
(This is masked on a lot of modern setups by the login screen taking an age to lumber into vlew, but I was using xdm.)
@denisbloodnok @siina that depends on what you want or expect.
Once you deal with a multitude of servers and services, you'll love journalctl -xe over syslog when it comes to debugging and detailed error reports.
But that's the Tragedy of #systemd.
The Tragedy of systemd
@denisbloodnok @siina regardless, #SystemD does boot faster simply because it doesn't go strictly linear but parallelizes startups and does dependency resolution on services.
- Which is way more convenient than #SystemVinit.
Cuz original #SysVinit s slow af.
- The only reason it's not feeling slow anymore is because we don't rock 2,5" 5400rpm IDE HDDs in laptops anymore but even most "budget" SSDs can saturate SATA-6G during reads, if not exceed it even in worst-case scenarios.
- And the only reason I didn't put
systemdinto @OS1337 as of now is the fact that I can't make it fit!
- And the only reason I didn't put