Mastodawn

417 of 568 pages of the NHS Palantir contract were blanked out when The Good Law Project tried to examine them. 417.
And then the lawyers got involved.

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Silversnapples Mar 16

Feels like Mandelson has been as deeply damaging as any foreign interference.

He lobbied for Palantir. Much of Palantirs gains weren't part of a bid. They just got the contracts with no domestic competitors invited to compete.

Inc Hulk 🧪Mar 15

@Silversnapples Evidently Plantir have a lot to hide from the public about what they will do with the personal data of the UK population.
You are not as gullible as the politicians who signed the contracts (against the advice of most security experts).

quangobaud Mar 15

@Silversnapples

How strangely unenforceable as a contract with people that is.

Oh, it's not a contract "with" the UK public, silly me!

@Silversnapples I do contribute to The Good Law Project, on a monthly subscription. I have previously contributed to political parties (Labour, Libs, Greens - OK, I'm definitely "left leaning"), and "Led By Donkeys" - purely because it feels like they do what Labour should be talking about.

And The Trussell Trust - I'm not rich, but we all have to help each other.

EndicottRoad59 Mar 15

@Silversnapples To me, that contract is invalid. If I can't read it, I won't sign it.

@Silversnapples 😳

@Silversnapples The one thing the British are forbidden to know is how successive governments have sold out every inch of the country to American corporations.

That's the real source of so called "Broken Britain" but it shalt not be named by the media, which is again owned by American corporations.

🤐

#uk #palantir #nhs #digitalsovereignty

Silversnapples Mar 16

@Rastal water: Australia.
It's not all the US. Id just quite like the apparantly ridiculous notion of sovereignty to actually mean what it says

Jargoggles Mar 15

@Silversnapples
How can they possibly justify redacting *any* text in a goddamn *NHS* contract?

I'm not British, so maybe I'm out of the loop. Is the NHS somehow responsible for nuclear codes or rosters of covert agents? Do they oversee top secret weapons development?

Silversnapples Mar 16

@jargoggles palantir also has contracts with the UK Ministry of Defence.

I think it's more about Palantir and about the government not wanting us to realise easily jist how much of the NHS is left to flog.

sophteis 🌈🦋Mar 15

@Silversnapples fucking of course does the NHS have a contract with Palantir. What the hell.

Silversnapples Mar 15

@sophteis didn't you know? Its been folded in for quite some time. But we have until next renewal to stop it getting any worse. Contract with NHS trusts (you can check to see if yours has too), with the MoD and thry want to tie it into data management for the government. To impress on our own MPs to make sure this does not happen.

Fluffy Kitty Cat Mar 15

@Silversnapples just like the other files peter thiel is in

Claudius Mar 17

@Silversnapples frankly: if your contract needs several hundred pages, that alone means there's something wrong.

Silversnapples Mar 17

@claudius legal contracts are lengthy. Especially when they cross borders I imagine. Now wondering how small the small print is and Im glad The Good Law Project has their microscope on this.

Neil Moffatt Mar 17

@Silversnapples Taking the piss of the public at a vast scale.

All government contracts should be transparent?

The much cited commercial sensitivity should apply to business to business transactions, not governments.

So if they were transparent, would it really damage contract negotiation?

Maybe I am foolhardy here. Not too sure.

Silversnapples Mar 17

@NicelyManifest precedents set by the Tory party for fast track contracts. Theres been too much misuse of protocols because they havent been written into law. Its time government was. Transparency should be legal unless it damages national security or private citzens personal information in my opinion.

Neil Moffatt Mar 17

@Silversnapples Agreed. Redactions just look so blatantly like 'something to hide' as they are clearly much more than critical parts of commercial agreements.

Besides, government is not involved in commerce same I am not when I contract a builder to work on my house. It is not commerce to commerce.

If they get a good deal is that something they need to hide?