There’s this passage in Systemantics which talks about “dual bureaucracy” in ancient Egyptian organisations (presumably public office).

It sounds like an excellent idea, but I cannot find any sources.

Does anyone know if it is true, and of any research or articles which explain it in more detail?

@samir I tend to think about this type of problem a lot when I'm idle.

The thing that keeps spinning in my mind is always something-something-sortition. But mostly applied in ways to highten the quality of political process rather than "removing parasitic Systems-people".

@plc Why not both!?

Have you seen this article by @DRMacIver on voting?

https://www.drmaciver.com/2013/09/towards-a-more-perfect-democracy/

Towards a more perfect democracy | David R. MacIver

@samir @DRMacIver

Ooh, that is a very nice and clear exposition. I think time had erased the distinction between sortition and random ballot in my mind.

But how would you use e.g. a random ballot to weed out "parasitic systems people"? Oftentimes those are appointed professionally, and their roles exist because "the system" itself perceives a need for them. (not saying it couldn't be a component, just that it needs more structure)

One thing I think could bring much good with it would be to assign a cost to the complexity of laws (somehow). Laws that are too complex to interpret (both for the populace and administrators) are a curse (EU and DK have their fair share for what I know) - they are at of risk selective enforcement and just maladptive. And probably reducing that could reduce the need for some "systems people" too.