Chris HansonMar 15

There seem to be two distinct kinds of “chatbot psychosis” happening right now:

1. Becoming delusional about themselves and the world as a result of being glazed nonstop by the friend in their computer, thinking they’re inventing new physics, discovering mystical secrets, etc. and becoming manic.

2. Becoming delusional about what LLMs are capable of and how effective they are, as a result of developing a reliance upon them, and becoming fanatical in their promotion and defense.

#ai #llm #slop

Show threadChris HansonMar 15

As an example, see the incredible escalation in response to me saying that the output of an LLM does not represent a developer’s own work: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47344155

The slopmonger refuses to accept that what they’re doing meets the academic definition of plagiarism. Instead they insist that I must not understand LLMs and that I need to get out of the way and out of the industry because what they’re doing is the way of the future.

#ai #llm #slop

If it’s the output of an LLM, it’s not their own work. | Hacker News

Show threadColin CornabyMar 15

@eschaton I’m not sure exactly how to put it - but I just don’t have as much interest in something if I learn the code was generated.

Maybe the best metaphor I have is in art. I have art hanging on my wall that I admire because it’s nice but also because it was made by hand. I can see the craft and work that went into it.

Maybe one decided to generate AI art. That doesn’t mean I’m going to feel the same about it or think that you’re as much of an artist.

Show threadOsma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦Mar 15
Can it be art if it's not made by hand? Lots of examples come to mind. Jewelry may be reproduced by casting. Prints are, well, prints. Architecture is manufactured (by machines as well as people other than the designer). Even in music there are loop machines, synthesizers, etc. But an author or artist is at the core.
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Show threadMiguel ArrozMar 15
@osma @colincornaby @eschaton I think you’re mixing tools and content. A painting is not done “by hand”. Painters use tools, like brushes and many other objects. That’s one thing. The other thing is asking a machine “create an image of a sunset over the ocean seen from a cliff, with a beach in the frame, in cubist style” and simply accepting what it spits out as art, and worse, as *their* art. They didn’t create it, they ordered a machine to create it (by plagiarism, usually).
Show threadOsma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
I think you misinterpret me. But thanks for the explanation, never could have imagined that myself.
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