Brian GordonRE: https://mamot.fr/@Khrys/116226030767910474
As predicted, humans are being turned into accountability sinks for #AI. AI code doesn’t work? You're fired!
"After outages, Amazon to make senior engineers sign off on AI-assisted changes"
Todd Knarr@elasticsoul @pluralistic Bets that the seniors start not signing off on code they aren't positive really works, with vague comments like "Overly complex, please simplify." or "Insufficient error checking. Please improve."?
RealGene ☣️@tknarr @elasticsoul @pluralistic
Start with where it puts the curly braces, and tab vs. space indents.
Start with where it puts the curly braces, and tab vs. space indents.
@RealGene @elasticsoul @pluralistic Yes on the first. Using tabs for indentation is an automatic "Fire this person." offense for me. Visual space should always match number of characters.
ShutterBugged@tknarr I use tabs because I want $number_of_chars = $levels_of_indentation, with easy single-operation increase/decrease of level of indentation.
@developing_agent And when indentation isn't an even multiple of tabs, as when aligning a multi-line expression in an assignment?
@tknarr Because this *isn't* a structural construct (like if/for/etc) I indent up to the level of indentation of that block, then if I *really* need to make things align I fill in the remaining space with spaces. (tabs, if I don't)
This ensures that the block as a whole still indents/unindents correctly with tabs. I am never, ever going to adjust the level of indent of *part* of an expression in this way, so the use of spaces for intra-block expression alignment padding doesn't matter.
@tknarr if this expression by the unholy machinations of mathematics DOES become so gnarly that heavy use of brackets becomes mandatory...
...then I've just invented a new code block surrounded by a different kind of bracket, put the complete expression on a new line inside them, indent with tabs like it's a regular code block, and continue to apply the rules recursively as normal.
@tknarr In this example #1 uses a mix of tabs and spaces to get *perfect* alignment, but tbh I mostly just use tabs like #2 until it's close enough. Life is often too short to always get character-perfect alignment on a broken expression that usually contains elements of different sizes anyway.
Piers Cawley@developing_agent @tknarr Yeah, #1 and #2 are pure chaotic evil though. Tabs *only* to the basic level of indentation, then spaces for alignment is the only way if you're going to use tabs for indentation.
@pdcawley @developing_agent Except that, in my experience and that of most devs I've worked with, it never stays just tabs for leading indentation. You get spaces mixed in there for various reasons, and once you do it just gets worse and worse.
@tknarr @pdcawley This is pretty irrelevant.
If I'm writing code for myself, then it's a complete non issue. If I really had to deal with someone adding in spaces randomly, I'd just write a simple linter that turns spaces into tabs. If the rest of the office mandated spaces as a condition of my employment I'd tack on a reverse linter that converts tabs to spaces before I check code in.