One of my favorite sites is https://etymonline.com – it adds so much nerd-joy to my life! Recently subscribed to support them, and now I wanna see if they're open to making a .ZIM file for #Kiwix 🤔

Saw this fun exchange today and [linguistics ramble loading...]

// Edited to link the EOL entry for "griffin" (to which "griffon" and "gryphon" are linked as alternatives): https://www.etymonline.com/word/griffin
There's more surprising history in there too!

Anyways, my guess is it has to do with being an infrequently-used word (for most of us) which entered English before orthography was standardized so much.

I'm a big fan of doublets – where the same word is imported multiple times, sometimes with v different meanings, sometimes quite similar (like "warden" & "guardian"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublet_(linguistics)

Doublet (linguistics) - Wikipedia

In language learning, I love the surprise overlaps that teach you more about the words you already know.
Like how "parable" and "parabola" are the same word in Spanish! And French "travailler" links English "movement" and "challenges" to Spanish "work".

The inter-connections add so much dimension, and reveal the depth of history: like the vast influence of Arabic, coming from ancient scientists & the Umayyad Caliphate in Iberia. Alchemy! ✨

Another fun English fact: "a napron" -> "an apron"

A bunch of words used to have Ns on the front, but were misinterpreted over time! The same thing happened in the other direction, too. Lots of examples (and related phenomena) here: https://www.etymonline.com/word/N

N - Etymology, Origin & Meaning of the Name

"an island," early 13c.), a narawe ("an arrow," c. 1400), a nox ("an ox," c. 1400), a… See origin and meaning of n.

etymonline

@alexglow

I had to look this one up because apron is "tablier" in french, and "naperon" is napkin, but it seems "apron" did indeed derive from "naperon". Neat!

Possibly my favourite doublet is my friend Guillaume who has a son named WIlliam - they are technically the same name, but also not.

@alexglow Annoyingly this is not entirely true, the same website says that `apple` comes from a different source, not `napple`. It does appear to be true for apron though! https://www.etymonline.com/word/apple
Apple - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

"apple; any kind of fruit; fruit in general," from Proto-Germanic *ap(a)laz (source also… See origin and meaning of apple.

etymonline
@ezekiel Yeah, the apple thing confuses me too! I wonder where/how those wires got crossed. I guess etymology is a messy business
@alexglow My favorite YouTuber for this kind of thing is Simon Roper
@North Looks fun! I'll have to check him out :)
@alexglow It’s from French, that’s so funny, I had no idea.
@alexglow etymology is recreational medicine
@lritter Honestly, I'm so so so bad at world history & geography, but I'd be so excited to take a course that taught them through the lens of linguistics.
My grasp of the subject is basically a bunch of separate photos pinned up on the wall, and I'd love to take a few weeks and a ball of red string to draw all the connections 😸
@alexglow I always check the wiktionary and click through the etymologies down to the proto-indo-european, and then back up to some other language I know. There are always some amusing connections.
@alexglow I like how when animals are walking around we use the Anglo-Saxon (cow, pig, sheep), but when they're food we use French (beef, pork, mutton). Because it was Anglo-Saxon peasants who looked after the former, and it was French-speaking nobility that ate the latter.
@alexglow I'm not gonna lie. took me a while to figure out what you meant by parable and parabola
(I'm Spanish)
@ehproque It definitely took me a minute, when I heard "parábola" in a Spanish-language vid about history! Then I ran over to Etymonline and was like
@alexglow wait
Palabra comes from parabola? WTF 🤯
@tedward @alexglow yeah, also no idea how that big heart ended up there
@ehproque @tedward I use the blue heart a lot, so I barely noticed XD
@alexglow @tedward but it was not an emoji it was massive!
@alexglow I'm addicted to RobWords videos for this very reason.
@Lynx Oooo, nice! I like his energy. There's another guy who stares into the camera and kinda rails about linguistics with a frenetic energy, and it's always jarring imo. This fella is much more pleasant to listen to. Subscribe'd :D
@alexglow He's also on Nebula now, if you have that 👍