Mastodawn

@grahamperrin @dch @krishean has this been resolved in a consistent way? I see two open diffs (D50650 and D54817) that have different language. There’s also a comment in one (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50650#1253032) that mentions another diff that no longer seems to be public. Personally I prefer the language in D50650 and I’m concerned that the language in D54817 (“Consider licensing and the AI service terms, including any attribution requirements.”) allows too much wiggle room for people to contribute code for which they can’t be 100% certain of provenance and/or ownership. Effectively: “LOL I considered it and decided I didn’t care.”

⚙ D50650 committers: add AI policy

Graham Perrin

@fedward

Approved D54817 <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D54817> for [[ai-policy]] in the Committer's Guide describes ai-guide as a supplement.

D54366 <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D54366> for the ai-guide surprises me, I didn't realise that it's not visible to the public.

@dch @krishean

⚙ D54817 Committer's Guide: Add project's AI policy and link to AI guide

@grahamperrin @dch @krishean I created an account so I can read D54366 and … I hate it. I don't think it places enough guardrails, and it's also way too long. In light of the fact that legal ownership of AI generated code is still in doubt, and in light of the fact that Linux is maybe on the wrong side of the AI line already (at least considering the kernel and systemd), I believe a stronger "just don't use it until the legal framework is more firmly established" stance is called for. I'm sensitive to the style and/or bug finding arguments, but I believe FreeBSD is in a position to become a safe harbor for people fleeing Linux for AI reasons, and I fear that policy as written doesn't provide enough reassurance.

dch

@fedward that would be my personal position too but we have to find consensus, if possible @grahamperrin @krishean

@dch @grahamperrin @krishean I mean, this is probably the wrong forum for me to be protesting in, and I'm Just One Guy™, but townspeople don't tend to come out well in stories where they compromise with the people who want to poison the well. "It's only a little bit of poison," they say.

* https://mastodon.social/@glyph/116220491984902015

Krishean Draconis Mar 13

@fedward @dch @grahamperrin i am reminded of a recent post/thread* likening it to brain poison

Graham Perrin Mar 14

@krishean @fedward more than that, I'm reminded of the discussions in June 2025.

Mar 14

@grahamperrin @dch @krishean alright, I just commented on D54366, which is a hell of a first contribution to anything.