Lu wilsonMar 12
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@TodePond @yaxu let us not forget stockhausen's advice to rdj

"I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work Song Of The Youth, which is electronic music, and a young boy’s voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it were varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations."

Mar 13 at 1:39pmWeb
Show threadLu wilsonMar 13
@tehn @yaxu what is this?
Show threadtehnMar 13
@TodePond oh just further evidence of the university anti-rhythm club. there are some other impressive opinions from the same moment: https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2010/10/15/karlheinz-stockhausens-electronic-music-tips-for-aphex-twin-plastikman-others/
Karlheinz Stockhausen’s Electronic Music Tips (For Aphex Twin, Plastikman & Others)

Back in 1995, classical composer and electronic music pioneer Karlheinz Stockhausen (22 August 1928 – 5 December 2007) took the time to give a listen to some then-current tracks by Aphex Twin, Plas…

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Show threadgregoriMar 13
@tehn @TodePond Wow at the opinions. Here is Stockhausen's Song of the Youths, FYI! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcCs6Muljmk
Karlheinz Stockhausen - Gesang Der Jünglinge ("Song of the Youths")

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Show threadgregoriMar 13
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Show threadJohn "Dobbymoodge" LambMar 13
@Gregori @tehn @TodePond Stockhausen is remarkable because his works provide the framework for clearly and decisively categorizing musical works into just 2 categories. In one group, we have works *not* written by Stockhausen and his ideological adherents, which are likely to have some value, some analytical reward, or simply may be pleasant or evocative. On the other hand, we have stuff that *is* the work of Stockhausen etc., and it all sucks terribly and is racist to boot.
Show threadLu wilsonMar 13
@Gregori @tehn racist low energy music
Show threadʞuᴉԀ ✅Mar 13

@TodePond @tehn @yaxu

As someone that used to hang out with Rich back before he was being celebrated in the Guardian, I can say pretty confidently Rich would say this is bollocks.

Show threadNick FMar 13

@PeaEyeEnnKay @TodePond @tehn @yaxu

Aphex Twin's response to Stockhausen was pretty good:

"Mental! I've heard that song before; I like it. I didn't agree with him. I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Didgeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to. Do you reckon he can dance? You could dance to Song of the Youth, but it hasn't got a groove in it, there's no bassline."

https://blogularsynthesis.blogspot.com/2008/10/stockhausen-on-aphex-twin-and-vice.html

Stockhausen on Aphex Twin and Vice Versa

I came across this interview on the interweb and thought i'd share it with you all. I've always wondered if electronic composers like Stock...

Show threadAlex McLeanMar 13
@nickautomatic @PeaEyeEnnKay @TodePond @tehn Heh, but then "I would recommend that every student of music go dancing at least once a week. And dance. Please, really dance: three or four hours a week."
Karlheinz Stockhausen, 1989"
Show threadAlex McLeanMar 13
@nickautomatic @PeaEyeEnnKay @TodePond @tehn Seriously though, we really need to work out how to talk about music without referencing the same tiny handful of european and north american white privileged men, whether braindance, electroacoustic or western classical. It's boring, circular and pointless because we can only imagine things relative to to the same old signposts.
Show threadtehnMar 13

@yaxu agreed, and apologies for surfacing the name.

i think this is the danger about defining something in opposition to another thing: one tends to keep the thing you're trying to transcend in the public consciousness, rather than let it fade away.

but absolutely yes to dancing.

Show threadAlex McLeanMar 13

@tehn No need to apologise, sorry I'm in a ranty mood today

+ well put !

Show threadMatildaMar 13
@yaxu @nickautomatic @PeaEyeEnnKay @TodePond @tehn This!! So much this!!!
Show threadLilacMar 14

@yaxu @nickautomatic @PeaEyeEnnKay @TodePond @tehn

disco?
or do you mean in terms of western music notation? cause *that*’s a doozy

that would be an interesting project though - talk to many cultures across the world and find out what they would need from music notation and get them to help design a more universal system