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DasusYou got any stats on that? Because I feel like gender-myths shouldn’t be propagated one way or the other when they’re not true.
Because I can’t find stuff to support your statement.
What I do find is Men are more accurate than women in aiming at targets in both near space and extrapersonal space
Men outperformed women on both the extrapersonal aiming tasks, and women outperformed men on the task of fine motor skill. However, a male advantage was observed for one of the aiming tasks performed in near space, suggesting that the male advantage for aiming accuracy does not result from proximity
But then again also
The mid-points of a series of lines which were positioned both within hand-reach (near space) and beyond hand-reach (far space) were estimated by 24 women and 24 men. When using a laser pointer to perform estimations, women were more accurate in the near condition than the far, whereas men were more accurate in the far condition than the near. When using a stick pointer for the far condition, women were more accurate than when using the laser, whereas men were more accurate using the laser pointer than the stick for the far condition. There was no difference between near and far accuracy scores for either sex using the stick. These results suggest that use of a tool which provides proprioceptive feedback causes the brain to remap far-space stimuli as if situated in near space.
Being amazing at shooting is more an individual trait than anything tied strictly to sex.
I’m not saying women aren’t better marksmen, I’ve heard that as well. But I served with a bunch and none of them were especially crack shots. They weren’t especially bad either. I never thought it’s got that much to do with genes or hormones, really. So I’d be interested to see if there is science showing women really are better on average.
Men are more accurate than women in aiming at targets in both near space and extrapersonal space - PubMed
Men excel at motor tasks requiring aiming accuracy whereas women excel at different tasks requiring fine motor skill. However, these tasks are confounded with proximity to the body, as fine motor tasks are performed proximally and aiming tasks are directed at distal targets. As such, it is not known …
I have no real source. Just personal anecdotes and what ive been told. Afaik, its not a biological avantage. Women just tend to be more relaxed and less prone to showing off which shows up as an uptick of performance in fields where precision is important
Yet I’ve shot with a lot of women. Like a literal army’s worth. There was no difference, except perhaps one leaning to men having the advantage, but I don’t see a causation other than Finnish dad’s preferring to teach their sons over their daughters.
However the differences I did see weren’t accounted for by any gender difference and the women certainly weren’t that much worse. I’d say the larger difference was city-folk vs people’s who grew up rural. Rural people’s could shoot, whatever they happened to have between their legs, (as well as use axes without putting their own ears at risk,) and city-folk were, well, less-able. Less trained would probably be the correct choice of words.
As I grew up rural, my dad made me shoot my first shotgun and .308 and an officer’s side-arm (which for my great-grandpa was a tiiiiiiny little pistol you couldn’t hit jack shit with from >10 yards) at the ripe age of 12 and my I shot my first AR at 13, I was fair bit more trained than most of the people I went to the army with.
But of those I did shoot with, I just wouldn’t say women are better marksmen. I know it’s a common myth, because the Soviets had female snipers. But that’s just it. It’s myth. Much like “carrots make you able to see in the dark.” It’s not straight up untrue, it’s just not true either.
Well me and the girls are better shots than any of the guys we shoot with but fair enough lmao
And I believe you are. But that doesn’t mean women are better at shooting than men. It just means you are good at it.
Yes. Thats what personal anecdotes is referring to. The other bit is what ive been told for… well my entire life lol
The other bit is
The other bit is also personal anecdotes. Just because they’re not your personal anecdotes doesn’t make them non-anecdotal.
I’m sorry but can you imagine the sort of bullshit you’d run into if you were to, idk, argue the opposite of that? If I were even to suggest that “men are better shots than women” I’d be instantly labeled a misogynist.
Yet you just keep repeating your assertion without any evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
Lmfao xD
You know this is a shitpost instance right? None of this is real or serious. Get a grip
Oh. So you’re not a woman nor a shooter at all?
Okay, if you say so.
I just notice the “jk lols” coming out quite often after serious claims like that you then seriously can’t back up. Then it’s “jk lol never meant anything I said”
I am a woman, and a shooter, and those are real aecdotes and what i have been told. Do i take weird gendered stereotypes like that seriously? Lol no. Is it funny to post in a shitposting comm about women shooters? Absolutely. It riles people like you up and gives me a ton of joy
Oh I’m not riled up remotely.
You just contradicted yourself quite badly, so I was clearing things up.
So you do believe the myth that women are better shots? Because unfortunately, science doesn’t seem to support that notion. But I’m not saying you can’t believe in what you want, lots of people believe in magic sky daddys to give them the mental support they need. If yours is thinking you’re better than others - while failing to prove it, well that’s up to you, hunny. :)
Nor have I said that you have.
You’ve just pretended like it is true, despite the overwhelming lack of data showing any kind of mechanism for it.
You just like thinking women are better marksmen. Despite there being no proof.
It’s okay, many people are religious.
Results: The results of the study indicated that men scored higher than women in pistol events and that no performance differences were found in rifle events when the whole group was compared.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7068418/
And these precision competitions utilise air rifles, which are much lighter in weight and recoil than “proper” firearms.
Notice how I’m still not claiming men are better shooters.
Hey, if you have to delude yourself that women are “great marksmen” for some weird reason you can’t even identify, then you go girl.
Just don’t expect the rest of the world to partake in your delusions. :)
You ae so bad at this xD
The only delusion here is that you have a point. Again, for like the 3rd time, i never said that lmao. But im happy to let you keep having your little toddler tantrum on the shitposting comm. Its just boosting this already funny pic and honestly really entertaining to me still. Your weird little mind games dont work on people that have nothingnto prove.
Hey you do you. If you want to believe in things which aren’t true, despite knowing that there is no science for them, you’re allowed to.
But we all know that’s what you’re doing, since the science simply doesn’t exist. Does it bother you so when I point that out…?
Ooh, lille missy is a bit pissy, because the facts don’t align with her religion…? :/
Oh you’re really mad that I called you out on there not being scientific support for “women are better marksmen”.
I would wager that you’re American from your childish behaviour.
You’re using the wrong tense there, my dad died last year.
It’s okay to be mistaken. There’s no need to have a tantrum just because someone pointed out that something you believe in is a myth, not fact.
I’m not offended. I’m not like you, I don’t get upset over random shit online.
Like someone pointing out something I said is actually a myth.
You must be the most dense person on the planet. I expressed that it was anecdotal and that i didnt take those sorts of gendered stereotypes seriously a long wgile ago. You are literally the only person here on some weird tirade with something to prove. You must have 0 friends or life because this is honestly so embarassing for you to showcase how bad you are at comprehending basic shitposts or english.
So, good day, youre an idiot
Ah yes, the Schrodinger’s douche-defense.
If someone agrees with you, you were being serious, but if someone points out it’s not exactly accurate, ite “I didn’t believe it anyway”.
So…you and the girls aren’t better shots than the guys, I take it. ;>
Genuinely sad/hilarious how much time youve wasted writing paragraph after paragraph in response to my nonsense lmao
I always wonder what your self-image is like, when you write “I hate writing but I’m forcing myself because you made me feel stupid.”
I actually enjoy writing. That’s why I’m on forums. What about you? Clearly you’re not here for the facts, and clearly you hate writing.
So… ego issues?
Ah, but you get so angry from someone posting that you regress into a child who writes
So it was “shitposting” when you said you shoot better than guys? Yeah I kinda saw that coming. No wörries.
More incoherent bullshit. I love it when I prove someone’s quite wrong, you know, scientifically speaking, and then they get so upset they just can’t let go unless they think they “get the last word.”
I don’t think like that, but I meet this daily. I have to say, usually it’s from men, because women tend to not let their egos control them.
looks like its actually your mom trying to get the last word
“garrggle blargggle nobody cares except you glarblle glrarglle”
So, refusing to answer whether everything is a shitpost and you’re not actually a better shooter than men in general?
A whole paragraph. Do you feel like you’re “wasting time”?
Real mature looking profile btw. (I didn’t check it, but I’d assume, with comments like that.)
You literally cant let it go that i wont say i agree with you lmao. No i still think women ae better. Now specifically to pite you.
I think youre a small petty tool with no life and im getting a lot of joy out of trolling you between rounds with ur mom. She has something to say btw
“glargle blargle blarg her nonsense is more coherent than your attempt at being clever blargle glarg”
Speaking of profiles, i bet your brain is as malformed as your ai profile pic. You probably used ai for this pathetic attempt at proving a point
“glargle blarg shes right you know. Glargle blargle youre uncreative and stupid, always have been glargle blargle”
At least my paragraphs are fun
I have no need to “let it go”.
I’m on forums because I like it. How did you put it… “it riles people up and gives me a ton of joy.”*
My mom is also dead btw. Dad went last year grandma and mom this year. So idk, since you’re religious you’re probably gonna feel all bad about making jokes about dead people.
I find it hilarious that I can quote you back at you, while all you can do is spam nonsense. It’s not like anyone’s going to notice you’re desperately avoiding mentioning why you’re even in the thread to begin with. Can’t mention that you said “women are better markmen anyway”, especially not with how the votes stand on those.
You keep getting madder. I just enjoy writing. ;>
Oh yeah, super religious. Me and god are super tight. Thats how i was able to piss on your mom. He owed me a favor
She has something else to say
“glarglleblargle, i love girl piss, glraggle blargle, why do you hate women?? gargle blarg”
You know everyone can see you spamming nonsense, right?
Just because there’s no science to prove women are better marksmen, you take that as a personal offense so bad you just can’t let go. I’ve seen this exact tantrum hundreds of times. Last time a day or two ago.
It always goes the same way. You can’t address why you’re in the thread and try mocking people on forums for… using forums for writing things… while at the same time writing things like “k lol” or “didn’t read lol”. I fail to see how you think it’s a positive thing, but anyway, that’s what usually happens.
We’ll see how much you follow the pattern
Yeah, i made it pretty clear my statement was not scientific.
“garggle blargle the only person acting remotely insecure is you glargle blarglevlarg”
im surlrised she can take this much piss
She has someyhing to say. I couldnt really understand but i think it was “ggglarglleblarglleblarg i hate my son glarggble”
And still, that doesn’t change the fact you’re deluding yourself if you still keep your religious rant of “women are better marksmen”.
You know, when you change “marksmen” to “soldier”, it gets even worse. I did serve with a lot of women, but the plain fact is that most of them can’t be put in the frontlines, because most of them are incapable of evacuating all but the lightest of people.
But still, I wouldn’t assert “men are better soldiers”, because frontline is a relatively small part of what the military does.
I wouldn’t even assert men are better marksmen. But I most definitely would not say “women are better marksmen”, because I’m not deluding myself. Unlike some, cough cough.