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DasusYou got any stats on that? Because I feel like gender-myths shouldn’t be propagated one way or the other when they’re not true.
Because I can’t find stuff to support your statement.
What I do find is Men are more accurate than women in aiming at targets in both near space and extrapersonal space
Men outperformed women on both the extrapersonal aiming tasks, and women outperformed men on the task of fine motor skill. However, a male advantage was observed for one of the aiming tasks performed in near space, suggesting that the male advantage for aiming accuracy does not result from proximity
But then again also
The mid-points of a series of lines which were positioned both within hand-reach (near space) and beyond hand-reach (far space) were estimated by 24 women and 24 men. When using a laser pointer to perform estimations, women were more accurate in the near condition than the far, whereas men were more accurate in the far condition than the near. When using a stick pointer for the far condition, women were more accurate than when using the laser, whereas men were more accurate using the laser pointer than the stick for the far condition. There was no difference between near and far accuracy scores for either sex using the stick. These results suggest that use of a tool which provides proprioceptive feedback causes the brain to remap far-space stimuli as if situated in near space.
Being amazing at shooting is more an individual trait than anything tied strictly to sex.
I’m not saying women aren’t better marksmen, I’ve heard that as well. But I served with a bunch and none of them were especially crack shots. They weren’t especially bad either. I never thought it’s got that much to do with genes or hormones, really. So I’d be interested to see if there is science showing women really are better on average.
Men are more accurate than women in aiming at targets in both near space and extrapersonal space - PubMed
Men excel at motor tasks requiring aiming accuracy whereas women excel at different tasks requiring fine motor skill. However, these tasks are confounded with proximity to the body, as fine motor tasks are performed proximally and aiming tasks are directed at distal targets. As such, it is not known …
You didn’t ask me, but I’ve got something: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21390957/
I’ve understood that Women make better surgeons as well; for the exact same reason. Steadier hand.
Gender differences in hand stability of normal young people assessed at low force levels - PubMed
To examine gender differences in hand stability, finger position and force holding tasks at low force levels were conducted with 30 male and 30 female young adults. Total fluctuation was defined as the standard deviation of measured data and fluctuation and the 10-Hz component of the physiological t …
No, I didn’t ask you specifically, but I asked the internet in general and you’re a part of it, so technically yeah I sort of asked you as well. The wider audience.
Thanks for the link.
“At low force levels” could be further specified, because I’d like to note that most weapons actually weigh a bit. Ofc if you’re a sniper, you’re looking for a spot where you can use something to hold your weapon instead of using muscles for a static hold.
My point is that while that’s a difference, yeah, I don’t think it’s enough to conclude women are better marksmen, as are neither of the studies I linked. Thanks anyway.
I have no real source. Just personal anecdotes and what ive been told. Afaik, its not a biological avantage. Women just tend to be more relaxed and less prone to showing off which shows up as an uptick of performance in fields where precision is important
Yet I’ve shot with a lot of women. Like a literal army’s worth. There was no difference, except perhaps one leaning to men having the advantage, but I don’t see a causation other than Finnish dad’s preferring to teach their sons over their daughters.
However the differences I did see weren’t accounted for by any gender difference and the women certainly weren’t that much worse. I’d say the larger difference was city-folk vs people’s who grew up rural. Rural people’s could shoot, whatever they happened to have between their legs, (as well as use axes without putting their own ears at risk,) and city-folk were, well, less-able. Less trained would probably be the correct choice of words.
As I grew up rural, my dad made me shoot my first shotgun and .308 and an officer’s side-arm (which for my great-grandpa was a tiiiiiiny little pistol you couldn’t hit jack shit with from >10 yards) at the ripe age of 12 and my I shot my first AR at 13, I was fair bit more trained than most of the people I went to the army with.
But of those I did shoot with, I just wouldn’t say women are better marksmen. I know it’s a common myth, because the Soviets had female snipers. But that’s just it. It’s myth. Much like “carrots make you able to see in the dark.” It’s not straight up untrue, it’s just not true either.
Well me and the girls are better shots than any of the guys we shoot with but fair enough lmao
And I believe you are. But that doesn’t mean women are better at shooting than men. It just means you are good at it.
Yes. Thats what personal anecdotes is referring to. The other bit is what ive been told for… well my entire life lol
The other bit is
The other bit is also personal anecdotes. Just because they’re not your personal anecdotes doesn’t make them non-anecdotal.
I’m sorry but can you imagine the sort of bullshit you’d run into if you were to, idk, argue the opposite of that? If I were even to suggest that “men are better shots than women” I’d be instantly labeled a misogynist.
Yet you just keep repeating your assertion without any evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
Lmfao xD
You know this is a shitpost instance right? None of this is real or serious. Get a grip
Oh. So you’re not a woman nor a shooter at all?
Okay, if you say so.
I just notice the “jk lols” coming out quite often after serious claims like that you then seriously can’t back up. Then it’s “jk lol never meant anything I said”
I am a woman, and a shooter, and those are real aecdotes and what i have been told. Do i take weird gendered stereotypes like that seriously? Lol no. Is it funny to post in a shitposting comm about women shooters? Absolutely. It riles people like you up and gives me a ton of joy
Oh I’m not riled up remotely.
You just contradicted yourself quite badly, so I was clearing things up.
So you do believe the myth that women are better shots? Because unfortunately, science doesn’t seem to support that notion. But I’m not saying you can’t believe in what you want, lots of people believe in magic sky daddys to give them the mental support they need. If yours is thinking you’re better than others - while failing to prove it, well that’s up to you, hunny. :)
Nor have I said that you have.
You’ve just pretended like it is true, despite the overwhelming lack of data showing any kind of mechanism for it.
You just like thinking women are better marksmen. Despite there being no proof.
It’s okay, many people are religious.
Results: The results of the study indicated that men scored higher than women in pistol events and that no performance differences were found in rifle events when the whole group was compared.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7068418/
And these precision competitions utilise air rifles, which are much lighter in weight and recoil than “proper” firearms.
Notice how I’m still not claiming men are better shooters.
Hey, if you have to delude yourself that women are “great marksmen” for some weird reason you can’t even identify, then you go girl.
Just don’t expect the rest of the world to partake in your delusions. :)
You ae so bad at this xD
The only delusion here is that you have a point. Again, for like the 3rd time, i never said that lmao. But im happy to let you keep having your little toddler tantrum on the shitposting comm. Its just boosting this already funny pic and honestly really entertaining to me still. Your weird little mind games dont work on people that have nothingnto prove.