FINAL EDIT: We've been making good progress with EVi! We've fully settled on version 9.1.0 with no AI code, we're on IRC @ #evi irc.oftc.net, we've gained a lots of popularity and we've been working on fixing tests and removing platforms that are deemed exotic with other cleanups. Thank you to everyone who has supported us this week!!!
hard-forked vim at release 9.1.0 (Jan 2024)
https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi
maybe we can get a group of people behind this??
Fuck AI.
Made an issue on how this should proceed.
In light of the events taking place on the upstream VIm repo, I hard-forked from release 9.1's code. Here's the plan I have including some options. The plan involves eventually renaming to CVI (Community's Vi IMproved), using year and month for releases instead of year, month and day. We'll...
Made a pull request to small-hack/open-slopware to add #VIm to the list.
https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware/pulls/38/files
@mrmasterkeyboard I'm not a programmer, I didn't even know what Vlm was before this, but thank you so much for your efforts.
This list worries me, though. I just uninstalled espeak-ng and will learn my way around flite, but I wanna ask you something, as I only have a surface level understanding of the implications of these technologies. I mean, I understand the impacts laid out on open-slopware, but I'd really like a programmer's perspective here.
I asked both Kdenlive and PeerTube devs at different points about their stances on AI, and these are the responses I got.
KDE (Kdenlive): https://bark.lgbt/@cloudskater/116179184695668448
Framasoft (PeerTube): https://framacolibri.org/t/peertube-and-generative-ai/26622
Can I get your takes on what these responses mean? I was and still am grateful for them, as they didn't seem to dodge my questions and gave a pretty straightforward reasoning to me, but perhaps there's something I missed or don't understand. I really love Kdenlive and PeerTube is a fantastic platform that I'm hoping to start creating videos for soon, so I really hope this doesn't fall into harmful territory.
Attached: 1 image @[email protected] Can I ask what "AI powered tools" you have in #Kdenlive and why you don't take a stand against them instead? It's really hypocritical of an organization dedicated to #FLOSS to be making use of LLMs in any form, even "open source" ones that don't share their training data. I wasn't happy when #PeerTube did it, but at least they only use it for subtitle creation (still not good but at least it's not generative) and they didn't plaster the buzzword on their website as a point of pride. I'll be really disappointed if I find out the best #FLOSS video editor is supporting stuff like this.
@cloudskater I'm really bad at explanation or my views sometimes but I'll try to give what I think.
But first, I'd like to thank you for your question and your thanks for my efforts of trying to bring VIm out of AI.
This may take me a while so I'll post this bit now and try to respond as fast as possible.
@mrmasterkeyboard Of course, I'm always gonna support efforts like this. Thank YOU.
And take your time responding, there's no rush at all. <3
@cloudskater For Kdenlive, I feel they kinda avoided the AI point unless they mean it's machine learning rather than generative AI (which upon looking back they did say in the 3rd one), which I totally could get that. They didn't seem to explain the AI powered tools part. Yes, while some of these features are either machine learning or have been around for more time than the LLM craze, it doesn't full explain it all unless I'm also missing something.
I'd say a little suspicious but okay maybe.
@cloudskater For PeerTube, I think they did a better job of giving their position and uses of AI. While I agree that Whisper and transcription is murky in general, it's still better than having a chatbot or 'art' generator built in the site.
I respect their transparency too. I think they did really well laying it out. They did great, and I like how they mention who they partner with for art and other things.
While they have no confirmation and don't prohibit it, it's better than most places.
NerdNextDoor 
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