Addisongod dammit. anyone have good #zola alternatives? I just saw the .claude folder... I can probably just pin to a version before the slop, though.
meek cynics@addison, what features do you need?
@[email protected] Mostly just the templating and RSS generation, without the insanity of the Hugo language. For now, just pinning to old Zola is still okay.
Just asking for clarification to make it easier for others to answer, @addison, I've no suggestion myself (writing my own SSG to replace the god-slow Franklin right now, especially when Julia's joined the slop).
Julia's joined the slop
So have CPython and TypeScript 
xrvspython has been “the language for AI” and some of the recent PEPs are motivated by LLMs, and typescript is by microslop so i’m not really surprised
The context was SSG, @xarvos, so I was venting how difficult it is now to avoid supporting LLM when writing one, they (and Go and Rust) are the most popular languages, including to those writing syntax highlighters and math rendering. The reference implementation of Rust is now embracing the slop (so is Go's) too and neither gccrs nor mrustc has been able to keep up with the moving language (gccgo is on par with go though). @pinskia of GCC at least isn't open to LLM usages though I'd be interested in a concrete policy. Cc: @addison
i see
The reference implementation of Rust is now embracing the slop
yea, given that rust’s moving fast and breaking things philosophy i’m not really surprised
so is Go’s
also not surprised given it’s by google
GCC at least isn’t open to LLM usages
i hope that at least. i suppose neither are zig and hare, bug personally i find handling strings in those languages painful
@xarvos, Zig and Hare have official statements, which are possible thanks to their BDFL governing model. Personally I find Zig delightful for implementing parsing state machine, but both Zig and Hare speak C ABI so one can just use a C library like discount. Currently I'm playing with the Lua implementation of djot with the full intention of hard-forking once jgm (of pandoc and CommonMark fame) wants to introduce slop to it. Cc: @pinskia & @addison
janet now bans llm-generated codehmm i just checked pypy and there doesn’t seem to be any obvious sign of slop code (but also no official statement against it either). i’ll check if my personal SSG can run on pypy
@cnx @pinskia @addison
RE: https://awkward.place/objects/73ebd0df-7ad8-44e3-8d9b-a3b5a9394a43
@xarvos, also check the libraries it uses 
i already checked, they don’t have it (as of last week, and just checked again, so as of now)
@xarvos, art thou referring to pensive, because pygments are very much sloppy. BTW PyPy is not a bootstrapping implementation, i.e. it still requires some Python implementation to build and does not come with its own standard library.
ok maybe when i’m done with the architecture i’ll do a rewrite in a correct language ok 
tri@addison @cnx Pelican worked fine for me in the past. Its jinja-based templating system was straightforward to me, and of course it does RSS feeds out of the box.
But if your needs are just templating and RSS, have you considered writing your own SSG in whatever programming language you’re comfortable with that has a decent markdown/djot library? It’s 10x simpler and rewarding IMHO.