It feels like Proton are being intentionally misleading in their statements. They know that most of their customers aren't familiar with how legal process actually works, so are happy to spread half-truths.

Under US law, a US law enforcement agency (LEA) typically has to apply for a subpoena or search warrant with a US court. The court is then responsible for deciding if the legal bar for search a request has been met, then either grants or denies it.

The problem is, if a company has no real US footprint (no US corporate entity, offices, servers, etc.), then a US court typically doesn't have the jurisdiction to compel the company to hand over customer data (except in some rare circumstances). Even if the court approved the warrant anyway, it wouldn't really be legally binding.

Which is why the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) exists. MLAT enables law enforcement agencies in one company to send requests for information to law enforcement agencies in another. Switzerland has such a treaty with the US. This means that the FBI can request that Swiss authorities hand over a Swiss company's data on their behalf.

Any country requesting information held by a company in a foreign jurisdiction would typically do so via MLAT. Which means from Proton's perspective, the legal request would appear to originate from their local law enforcement, not the FBI. Which they clearly understand based on their Reddit post.

Saying "we don't respond to legal requests from anywhere other than Swiss authorities" seems very intentionally worded to give the impression that the company does not cooperate with foreign law enforcement. But since it'd be the Swiss authorities handling any such requests, they'd have to comply, since as they admitted, they have to comply with local laws.

There is, however, some useful (but more nuanced) information here:

Firstly, MLAT requests are handled by local law enforcement according to local law. So if there is a difference between the law of the sending and recipient country, that might mean the MLAT request is denied. That probably doesn't mean much, because if you're on the FBI's radar, the chances are you did something that is also massively illegal in Switzerland too.

Secondly, they are 100% correct in saying that no other service provider is going to do any better. They're all beholden to local laws, and the ones that think they're not tend to get their doors blown off by SWAT like CyberBunker did. The only exception is if the company resides in a country which does not cooperate with US law enforcement (which Proton does not).

But the part that's extremely disingenuous is that the "we only respond to requests from the Swiss authorities". That statement is likely intended to imply they don't cooperate with law enforcement in any other countries, which is simply not true. Switzerland has MLAT agreements with over 30 counties.

People really need to understand that no company is going to shield you from the FBI (or any reputable law enforcement agency). They'll use misleading statements to make it sounds like they don't cooperate with law enforcement, but they do. They have to.

@malwaretech The thing that gets me is - is the company being requested by the MLAT allowed to challenge their local government on the legality of the request?

Like how Apple famously refused to make a program to automatically decrypt their iPhones to federal, state, or municipal authorities to be able to decrypt a terrorist's phone, and as I recall, that actually went to court on that?

Could Proton not do the same with the request made of them?

@AT1ST Depends what remedies exist under both the MLAT and Swiss law. I'm not sure if they could challenge in US court, Swiss court, or both.
In US court, companies can move to quash a subpoena, but if a magistrate judge found probable cause, that would probably be a difficult battle. Not to mention the grounds for quashing a subpoena in the first place are very limited, and I don't think that any remedy is even available here but am not an expert (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_45).

Once the case gets the court - and it doesn't seem it ever did here - there could be motions to suppress the evidence on the grounds it was illegally obtained. That seems unlikely to prevail here, especially given that analysis would probably be under US law, not Swiss law.

There could also be other challenges to the case, i.e. first amendment challenges, but without knowing the facts its hard to know how successful those challenges would be. All of that is so far down the road that it wouldn't be in Proton's calculus.

I am not a lawyer, take everything I said with a lot of skepticism.

Rule 45. Subpoena

LII / Legal Information Institute
@iampytest1 Ah, so the caveat to the "Swiss privacy law is the strictest" part for Proton is that, if the Swiss judicial system thinks the MLAT request is above board, companies or related persons *can't* challenge it because the judge already ruled "Probable cause" on it, and they don't want to re-litigate it?

@AT1ST That I don't have an answer to.
If this was a subpoena to a US company subpoenaed under US law, they could challenge it in US court but it will be an uphill battle.

I have no idea how Proton could challenge the subpoena under Swiss law, and my guess is they wouldn't be able to challenge it under US law, but I am not a lawyer and I really don't know.