Rebecca HeberleinMar 7
brib [has moved again]

I'm building a list of #slopfree software projects to help developers, businesses and software users make choices about their software usage.

And I wanted to provide a (semi-)positive counterpart to the AI doom.

https://codeberg.org/brib/slopfree-software-index

Happy to take suggestions and contributions!

EDIT: Thanks everyone for their support! I will need time to process all the replies, I will get back to you over the next few days.

EDIT 2: I've compiled the contributions into the project - thanks for your suggestions! If any are missing, please file an issue or PR so I can easily track suggestions

#noai

slopfree-software-index

A list of open-source projects that reject AI-generated code

Codeberg.org
Mar 7 at 12:14pmWeb
Show threadStephen 🌈 (he/him)Mar 7
@sitcom_nemesis love this! You have a small typo.. “ By choosing human software, you can be assured that your business will not be adversely affected [by] copyright lawsuits that may affect the legality of the software you are using or your ability to protect your own intellectual property.”
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@firepoet Thank you, human spelling checker! 
Show threadStephen 🌈 (he/him)Mar 7
@sitcom_nemesis You are welcome! 😆
Show threadMaxMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis Suggestion made! (well, actually, I still needed to actually press the buttons...)
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@max I can't find it 😢
Show threadMaxMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis My bad, I can't computer today.
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@max Found it! 😃
Show threadMotéMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis thank you!
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis perhaps worth noting that pretty much any GPLed thing is likely to be slop free. You either need a restrictive license or a tight governance model (like BSD OSes). Perhaps there's evidence otherwise but I don't think so at this point. A lot of permissive projects are unsurprisingly adopting vibecoding.
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@swannodette I wish! Linux is GPL but explicitly allows AI contributions: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst#attribution
linux/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst at master · torvalds/linux

Linux kernel source tree. Contribute to torvalds/linux development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis yeah sorry I meant GPL projects who've assigned copyright to FSF, the governance bit!
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@swannodette Assigned copyright to FSF? What do you mean?
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/FSF-copyright-handling - and FSF governs what is permissible https://lwn.net/Articles/1040888/
FSF copyright handling: A basis for distribution, licensing and enforcement — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette and Emacs is considering it…
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis can Emacs can consider anything like that independent of the FSF? (I'm probably totally ignorant here, but I thought not?)
Show threadmirabilosMar 7

@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette I’ve just seen a thread about it on Fedi yesterday, I’ll leave the details to the GNUs (I’m strongly on the "copycentre" side, but with quite a harsh anti-slop stance in the licence interpretation guidelines).

Just saying a licence won’t save you if the heart isn’t behind it.

The MirOS Licence (MirBSD)

Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis well we should be aware that what people say on Fedi is not necessarily what is going on. My impression from following the discussions on GNUs lists is that no FSF project can incorporate significant LLM coded patches at this time. So License + Governance + stance is a nice way to umbrella many projects at once from slop.
Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette it contains links to more infos and ML threads. I just skimmed it, as GNU Emacs is of no interest to me.
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis well if you're not interested then don't assume anything :) details / facts are important. There's a lot of fear-mongering going around and that is also not good.
Show threadmirabilosMar 7

@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette I just need to point out that licence is nowhere even near a usabke indicator. There is a lot of resistence on the BSD side as well (although sadly not uniform across all BSDs either).

Absence of emoji in the documentation is honestly a better indicator.

Governance… I want to say yes but it isn’t true either, see Debian, see Linux, even OpenBSD leans towards judging on technical merits only.

Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette Just because I did not follow one thread to the end does not make my "hold up, check this first, your assumption is untrue" invalid. You can follow it.
Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@swannodette @sitcom_nemesis took me a bit to find a reference to one of the original threads; https://yap.zyd.lol/@zyd/statuses/01KK1ZQ6A421JVYHZ4B1GPC2V3 (both thread and linked-to) are related, if you want to have a look at original sources
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos hrm takes me to a status I can't see?
Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@swannodette ooooh, gotta love the fediverse… https://social.cyberia9.org/notes/ajiof31dsh8800ab is some random point inside the thread with a webview, if that helps
notptr (@notptr)

@[email protected] already made a local copy of emacs and I'm still going to be using sbcl 2.6.1 for now. RE: RE: https://mastodon.social/@lhp/116182144641052701 I will actually lose my shit if Emacs starts accepting LLM contributions. Please, let me enjoy just one damn program. Aaaaaaaaaa #emacs

Ghosts of Lain - Cyberia 9
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos yeah I read that thread the other day. Not much substance then or now. 100% less FUD here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2026-03/msg00032.html GNU/FSF hasn't yet defined a policy so GNU/FSF projects are avoiding generative stuff. I suspect the obvious copyright issues will more or less prevent inclusion.
[RFC] Pros and cons of using LLM for patches beyond simple copyright (wa

Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@swannodette I sure hope so.
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 8

@swannodette @[email protected]

The situation is a little ambiguous, with a lot of active debate, and it looks like a policy is actively being developed. Once the policy is released I think it will be easier to assess whether I can put the GNU/FSF projects (and which ones) on the list.

I don't think licensing rules anything in or out, the GNU projects do have a fairly strict copyright policy but the exact copyright status of LLMs can also be considered ambiguous due to all of the current legal battles

GNU Coding Standards

GNU Coding Standards

Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 8

@swannodette I wouldn't be surprised about this correlation, I believe the appeal of permissive licenses is that they are corporate friendly and LLMs are certainly corporate friendly. Similarly, GPL licenses are corporate-unfriendly and more community-based and I think community-based projects tend to be more hostile to LLMs.

But I think this is all correlation, not necessarily causation

Show threadwitch_t *naviMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

a few more (plus one more in the reply to that)
witch_t *navi (@[email protected])

@alexia gentoo was already mentioned, so: openrc: i didn't write it anywhere in the repo yet, but i am openly and vocally against it, and currently the only active maintainer musl: https://www.o...

Show threadkjveeMar 7

@sitcom_nemesis

Add love2d to the list
https://social.nouveau.community/@andnull/116189271962485826

... and and and and ... (@[email protected])

LOVE has apparently updated their policies on AI generated code: > Note > > Pull requests, bug reports, and other contributions made with LLM / generative AI technology will not be accepted. https://github.com/love2d/love?tab=readme-ov-file#contributing

Nouveau
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis you should add Clojure and all of its core libraries see https://gist.github.com/richhickey/ea94e3741ff0a4e3af55b9fe6287887f - all core libs assign copyright to him and he's not going to accept LLM code https://github.com/clojure
Thanks AI!

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Show threadkrisMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig#strict-no-llm-no-ai-policy
zig

General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.

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Show threadSteven ReedMar 8
@sitcom_nemesis might be worth talking to @the about their No-AI list? https://noai.starlightnet.work Would be a shame to duplicate effort!
Starlight Network No-AI List

Show threadAlexia Mar 8
@srtcd424 @the @sitcom_nemesis I'd be down!
Show threadEskild HustvedtMar 8

@sitcom_nemesis https://migrainelog.zerodogg.org

( https://gitlab.com/mglog/org.zerodogg.migraineLog/-/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md?ref_type=heads#use-of-generative-ai )

Migraine Log

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