brib [has moved again]Mar 7

I'm building a list of #slopfree software projects to help developers, businesses and software users make choices about their software usage.

And I wanted to provide a (semi-)positive counterpart to the AI doom.

https://codeberg.org/brib/slopfree-software-index

Happy to take suggestions and contributions!

EDIT: Thanks everyone for their support! I will need time to process all the replies, I will get back to you over the next few days.

EDIT 2: I've compiled the contributions into the project - thanks for your suggestions! If any are missing, please file an issue or PR so I can easily track suggestions

#noai

slopfree-software-index

A list of open-source projects that reject AI-generated code

Codeberg.org
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis perhaps worth noting that pretty much any GPLed thing is likely to be slop free. You either need a restrictive license or a tight governance model (like BSD OSes). Perhaps there's evidence otherwise but I don't think so at this point. A lot of permissive projects are unsurprisingly adopting vibecoding.
Show threadbrib [has moved again]Mar 7
@swannodette I wish! Linux is GPL but explicitly allows AI contributions: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst#attribution
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Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette and Emacs is considering it…
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis can Emacs can consider anything like that independent of the FSF? (I'm probably totally ignorant here, but I thought not?)
Show threadmirabilosMar 7

@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette I’ve just seen a thread about it on Fedi yesterday, I’ll leave the details to the GNUs (I’m strongly on the "copycentre" side, but with quite a harsh anti-slop stance in the licence interpretation guidelines).

Just saying a licence won’t save you if the heart isn’t behind it.

The MirOS Licence (MirBSD)

Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis well we should be aware that what people say on Fedi is not necessarily what is going on. My impression from following the discussions on GNUs lists is that no FSF project can incorporate significant LLM coded patches at this time. So License + Governance + stance is a nice way to umbrella many projects at once from slop.
Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette it contains links to more infos and ML threads. I just skimmed it, as GNU Emacs is of no interest to me.
Show threadswannodetteMar 7
@mirabilos @sitcom_nemesis well if you're not interested then don't assume anything :) details / facts are important. There's a lot of fear-mongering going around and that is also not good.
Show threadmirabilos

@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette I just need to point out that licence is nowhere even near a usabke indicator. There is a lot of resistence on the BSD side as well (although sadly not uniform across all BSDs either).

Absence of emoji in the documentation is honestly a better indicator.

Governance… I want to say yes but it isn’t true either, see Debian, see Linux, even OpenBSD leans towards judging on technical merits only.

Mar 7 at 7:36pmWeb
Show threadmirabilosMar 7
@sitcom_nemesis @swannodette Just because I did not follow one thread to the end does not make my "hold up, check this first, your assumption is untrue" invalid. You can follow it.