just adrienneMar 5
So if you're using Proton thinking it's "privacy-focused", it turns out they're giving data to the Feebs now. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester

A court record reviewed by 404 Media shows privacy-focused email provider Proton Mail handed over payment data related to a Stop Cop City email account to the Swiss government, which handed it to the FBI.

404 Media
Show threadEvaMar 5
@adrienne fuuuuu....
What is the alternative? Just roll my own? Fucking hell...
Show threadWerawelt
@smolbrain @adrienne
Maybe #Deltachat
@deltachat is in Fediverse and here is the homepage:
https://delta.chat
And if you want, you can use your own server.
Delta Chat: Delta Chat, decentralized secure messenger

Delta Chat is a decentralized and secure messenger app 💬 Reliable instant messaging with multi-profile and multi-device support ⚡️ Sign up to secure and interoperable chatmail relays 🥳 Interactive ...

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Show threadEvaMar 5
@werawelt
Thats a messaging app
Email unfortunately is still needed for too many services. Unless this also supports a mail server? @adrienne
Show threadWeraweltMar 5
@smolbrain
It base on email-protocol
https://delta.chat/de/help#kann-ich-eine-klassische-e-mail-adresse-mit-delta-chat-verwenden ( please choose the english language on the homepage)
@adrienne
Delta Chat: FAQ

Was ist Delta Chat? Delta Chat ist eine zuverlässige, dezentralisierte und sichere Instant-Messaging-App, verfügbar für Mobile- und Desktop-Plattformen. Einfache Erstellung von privaten Chat-Profil...

Show threadjust adrienneMar 6
@smolbrain @werawelt I"m not an infosec/privacy person but i'm asking folks who are what they are recommending.
Show threadEvaMar 6
@adrienne Goodluck. Proton *was* my infosec move. Im back to a bit of square zero again. Ive been working on too many oth3r things to solve this one right now. Ill love to hear whatever you find. @werawelt
Show threadjust adrienneMar 6
@smolbrain @werawelt it sounds like if you're not paying them with a credit card there's nothing they can give up on you, at the very least. pay them in cash, i guess?
Show threadjust adrienneMar 6
@smolbrain @werawelt i don't know anything about Posteo but apparently they might be good? https://furry.engineer/@ysegrim/116181161858800673
Ysegrim (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] While Posteo.de stores your payment details (they have to), they do not connect it to your account. The only information connected to your account is _that_ you paid. Meaning, while they already straight out reject a third of their requests for formal incorrectness (and file complaints), last year they never provided any user/payment data because they straight up do not store it. https://posteo.de/en/site/transparency_report

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