Christine Lemmer-WebberMar 5
A new twist in the "AI license laundering of chardet" story https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327
No right to relicense this project · Issue #327 · chardet/chardet

Hi, I'm Mark Pilgrim. You may remember me from such classics as "Dive Into Python" and "Universal Character Encoding Detector." I am the original author of chardet. First off, I would like to thank...

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Show threadChristine Lemmer-WebberMar 5

But really, relicensing a GPL codebase to MIT is uninteresting.

Let's do the interesting one, which is: vibe code a "clean room" reimplementation of an entire proprietary codebase! After all, Microsoft released a "shared source" proprietary version of Windows. Now try seeing what happens if you run THAT through the "turn it into public domain" machine

Win-win outcome, no matter how it goes

Show threadChristine Lemmer-WebberMar 5

Winning option 1: yes, you can vibe code proprietary codebases into the public domain, allowing us to bootstrap proprietary codebases quickly

Winning option 2: stopping laundering of copyleft codebases

Either of these are interesting outcomes!

Show threadChristine Lemmer-WebberMar 5
I left a comment to that effect here https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327#issuecomment-4005721071
No right to relicense this project · Issue #327 · chardet/chardet

Hi, I'm Mark Pilgrim. You may remember me from such classics as "Dive Into Python" and "Universal Character Encoding Detector." I am the original author of chardet. First off, I would like to thank...

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Anton GerasimovMar 5
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omg I am just seeing now that the dude who did the "AI relicensing" fucking replied with an obvious slop response, of all the fucking disrespectful things to do, holy fucking shit https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327#issuecomment-4005195078
No right to relicense this project · Issue #327 · chardet/chardet

Hi, I'm Mark Pilgrim. You may remember me from such classics as "Dive Into Python" and "Universal Character Encoding Detector." I am the original author of chardet. First off, I would like to thank...

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Show threadSoapDogMar 5
@cwebber that whole relicensing and this slop reply are vomit inducing.
Show threadDoug BelshawMar 5
@soapdog @cwebber It's just the lack of understanding of what an LLM is that's makes one's hand want to smack one's forehead. Or, preferably, his.
Show threadBrian DavidMar 5
@soapdog @cwebber There is a real issue with people using LLMs to try to brute force their way out of a situation. Make a response that is long enough and plausible enough, and people will roll their eyes and often just give up. I have experienced this directly at work, and it drives me crazy.
Show threadArmchair EpistemologistMar 5
@cwebber I love the sentence "If you are indeed the Mark Pilgrim..." So steeped in bad faith that they assume others are too.
Show threadYour weary 'net denizenMar 5

@cwebber I'm not sure that's slop, but I won't discount the possibility... 🤔 But this part is funny in the dark humor sort of way:

"...explicitly instructed Claude not to base anything on LGPL/GPL-licensed code."

So, you see, no problem... 🙄

Show threadLuke HarbyMar 6

@cstanhope @cwebber

Claude after being explicitly instructed not to base anything on LGPL/GPL-licensed code

Show threadaevaMar 5
@cwebber these people don't know how to write on their own anymore lol
Show threadKirtai 🏳️‍⚧️Mar 5
@cwebber
If he can't be bothered to write it, why should we bother to read it?
Show threadQuantum ⊂ AIMar 5
@cwebber I felt my brain getting smoother as I read that