Greenpeace InternationalYou know what WON’T get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
Tom DB 🦣@greenpeace Pity the sun doesn’t shine at night and battery complexes aren’t yet build over there. We’re not yet at the right stage for this comment.
VNKR@TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?
This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.
@vnkr @greenpeace So, the game is blaming? It's not a pissing contest for blame. Regulatory issues, totally agree on that one. Recycling and energy capacity issues, also agree. Outdated current technology, maybe. But shouting who's to blame will not help us one inch further into a better battery solution. More money to science maybe.
Putting a stop to burning fuels...is ...currently....not ....globally ...possible.
DoubleD@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace Follow the $$. The Petroleum Industry owns the world and they are NOT giving up all they reap from it! People need to push for more solar and wind. So this is a perfect opportunity for them too have their voices amplified!!
@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace No, governments need to do that. People are not making up the rules to sway those policies when powerful lobbyist are at work behind the scenes. It’s about policy.
@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I feel Greenpeace is barking at the wrong tree, we all, myself included, do want a change in energy use. But we already know that. It still is a process, which takes time, more than we want but still it does. Amplifying a message is nice, playing along the policy way to change it is better. They should TALK more and invest in the science communication of it to pursuade them.
@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace I will continue the conversation but will ALWAYS PUSH FOR A CLEAN AIR PLANET SURVIVAL STRATEGY. Sorry my caps lock stayed on. 🤦♀️ Billionaires have had their day dictating how I live. I’m a loud and proud planet advocate 👍
@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I applaud that, and I also wish for that future, but again, that was not my point. We're just not ready from a practical standpoint to switch all the fossil fuels right now to no fossil use. And greenpeace has been stubborn in keeping that narrative to the people like it already is. It's just not. Don't I want less fossil use? Off course I do. But I'm not blind for the reality of the present. No worries on the caps-lock ;-)
@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace If we wait till the world ( who really does that mean?) is ready… well women wouldn’t vote, disease would still kill off babies ( soap was a game changer) oceans would all be polluted, we’d have never been capable of any change at all!!! We are watching as our forests die, as our ocean mammals suffer, as our planet screams ENOUGH! Waiting for Ready is just a state of inertia. Sometimes ready is NOW!
@TomDB @Meema1616 @greenpeace governments absolutely need to do that. But they won't do that if we don't tell them it needs to be done.
@vnkr @Meema1616 @greenpeace I haven’t met many governments that listened to their citizens unfortunately. 🫤
Lotneuv@TomDB @Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace Actually its the people unfortunately. The lobbyists that turn governments heads are paid with the money coming from consumers. If you don't buy from them they wont get paid and then they stop. Better still, buy renewables and let those companies have money for their lobbying.
No amount of government interventions have stopped narcotics trade. If there is demand supply will fight whatever obstacles even when things are clearly dangerous.
Just stop using.
@TomDB @greenpeace ah, you are right. Let's not mention it then. Just keep using oil.
The comment was designed to provoke a thought that perhaps there's a better way of powering out lives. But alas, not currently possible. Dismissed :)
@vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.
I’d rather see them pressuring governments. I’m all for that.
@TomDB @greenpeace only common people together can do anything. Governments won't do shit if not pushed from below.
And making common people think about these topics is the first step into making some of them act.
And making common people think about these topics is the first step into making some of them act.
Supermoosie@vnkr @TomDB @greenpeace
Batteries supplying up to 9% of demand at night.
We have seen batteries charge with cheap solar, discharge all night, dump remaining energy before 6am and start the solar charging cycle again.
We have had 252,000 household battery systems have been installed with a total storage capacity of 6,280 megawatt-hours, in just 6 months.
Meanwhile there is a ever expanding amount of grid batteries being built or in development. Getting bigger and longer duration.
There is also pumped hydro storage, hydro. Wind etc.
Maybe your government just isn't trying.
Canvases By Peter 🇵🇸@SuperMoosie @vnkr @greenpeace Tom is just another troll, it's obvious, best to just block and not even bother.