R.L. Dane 
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Oh man, the #MacbookNeo is giving me pre-unibody 2008 #Macbook vibes. RESIIIIISST!!! — #microblogging #MicroToot: 84 characters
Patrick Georgi@rl_dane two words: liquid. glass.
Oh, I'd run linux on it. XD
@rl_dane in 2030, when the reverse engineering efforts made sufficient progress? Or in a VM, fullscreen, autostarting at boot? ;-)
Yeah, that's the thing.
No, this is not a serious consideration. Apple is still horrible, I don't want to give them any money.
Dendrobatus Azureus
Vladimir@rl_dane actually indeed, if only OSX still looked like the Lion-era OSX. Also bring the plastic Macbooks back pretty please, gosh, who was the genius who decided that aluminum is a good case material.
Actually, Lion is where we got the crappy iOS-style scrollbars. Gimme Snow Leopard, PLOX. XD
Also, while aluminum can bend and fatigue, the white plastics became very brittle over time, were porous, and retained smells.
If you ever had a sweaty friend use your macbook, it would smell like them until the end of time. :(
The unibody plastic machines avoided some of those flaws, but weren't as cool-looking IMO. ;)
@rl_dane I am sweaty myself, you won't daunt me!
2012-2019 my personal laptop was Air 2012, and, while it was by far the best computer I've ever had, swear to Lord it looked funny towards the end.
I was very fond of my 2014 13.3" MBA, but it suffered a tea-baptism in 2019, which was the impetus for me getting back into Linux/Unix full-time, so I guess it all works out. ;)
@rl_dane I got that touch-bar MBP then, the worst computer I've ever had, struggled with that shitty glass slab and faulty keyboard. Apple magic was over, half a year later I sold it thinking "hey, I have a Linux workstation at work anyway".
Yeah, I get it. With the touchbar, at least they were trying to innovate a little. 😂
I love how this week Apple finally produces a halfway affordable laptop for the first time in their bloody existence, and all the tech youtubers are falling over themselves saying, "ONLY APPLE COULD HAVE DONE THIS!!!" XD
I do wish someone made a white linux/unix laptop, though. Thinkpads are nice, but they're all black. I'd love some variation, and not just various shades of alumini?um. XD
> a white linux/unix laptop
My work laptop is XPS 13. It's white, it's very pretty, probably it has excellent Linux support (that I can't test), it's pricey, it's a crap that was shipped to service several times in just few years.
Yeah, I haven't been particularly enamored by Dell in the last couple decades. ;)
jacob 🦀@rl_dane The thing that kills it for me is the 8GB RAM. My wife needs a new laptop and I was really hoping this would be it for the price.
Yeah, Apple's gonna Apple. XD
But with the right tools, even 4GB RAM is plenty. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
~ $ top -b |head
load averages: 0.08, 0.25, 0.71 falcon.lan 07:29:18
77 processes: 76 idle, 1 on processor up 34 days 20:15:27
CPU0 states: 4.9% user, 3.7% nice, 5.8% sys, 1.0% spin, 0.4% intr, 84.3% idle
CPU1 states: 4.8% user, 4.1% nice, 6.0% sys, 1.0% spin, 0.0% intr, 84.1% idle
Memory: Real: 333M/1506M act/tot Free: 2176M Cache: 385M Swap: 273M/4071M
PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIME CPU COMMAND
16546 rld 10 20 202M 102M sleep/1 thrslee 155:04 0.39% syncthing
74177 rld -22 0 48M 65M sleep/0 schto 0:00 0.20% alacritty
34298 _x11 -22 0 76M 30M sleep/1 schto 15:11 0.05% Xorg
~ $
~ $ ramhogs |tail
14.6523 nvim --embed /tmp/tut535769031
14.6758 dunst
23.5938 go/bin/tut
29.3906 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt05 -auth /etc/X11/xenodm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-zBJxuw (Xorg)
41.5391 /sbin/mount_mfs -o rw -o nodev -o nosuid -s 2097152 swap /tmp
64.7305 alacritty
72.4766 alacritty -e go/bin/tut
101.887 /usr/local/bin/syncthing --no-browser
-------------
485.864 total
~ $
neofetch blurb:
OS: OpenBSD 7.8 amd64
Host: LENOVO 744943U
Uptime: 34 days, 20 hours, 16 mins
Packages: 513 (pkg_info)
Shell: bash 5.3.3
Resolution: 1280x800
WM: i3
Theme: Adwaita [GTK3]
Icons: Adwaita [GTK3]
Terminal: alacritty
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo L9600 (2) @ 2.134GHz
GPU: Mesa Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset (CTG)
Memory: 608MiB / 3815MiB
Moses Izumi@rl_dane
Considering that it uses a mobile CPU, I wonder if it'll use the M1's permissive bootloader or the same locked-down junk as the iPhones.
I just wonder if Asahi Linux's body of work can be applied to the iOS devices.
Considering that it uses a mobile CPU, I wonder if it'll use the M1's permissive bootloader or the same locked-down junk as the iPhones.
I just wonder if Asahi Linux's body of work can be applied to the iOS devices.
I mean, to be clear, my nostalgia isn't getting anywhere near my wallet. XD
The form factor may be sweet, and the SOC may be powerful, but Apple is horrible.
The single fact that you need another mac to perform DFU restore on a mac is enough to keep me far away from that platform.
I don't want an iPhone-in-a-box, or an iPad-with-a-keyboard.
Guy who's trying his best :(Let me help you:
_$700 for 8GB of non upgradeable RAM_
That said, love the idea of fun and friendly machines coming back. Really looking forward to the death of depressing grey monoliths.
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane
Yeah, at that point you might as well be using a phone/tablet in a docking station as your primary computer.
Every time I look at the CrowView et. al. I think about building a more opinionated version of the same thing.
- battery bank (ATX PSU, USB-PD)
- a VESA mount behind the screen, to hold some little office PC
- drive bays
- swappable keyboards
- expresscard over thunderbolt(!)
Speaking of fun and friendly computers: how are your homemade ITX cases going?
Yeah, at that point you might as well be using a phone/tablet in a docking station as your primary computer.
Every time I look at the CrowView et. al. I think about building a more opinionated version of the same thing.
- battery bank (ATX PSU, USB-PD)
- a VESA mount behind the screen, to hold some little office PC
- drive bays
- swappable keyboards
- expresscard over thunderbolt(!)
Speaking of fun and friendly computers: how are your homemade ITX cases going?
Currently a bit stalled while I try to find a good source of small form factor power supplies that aren't absolutely terrible but also don't cost three times what I would consider reasonable
@OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
We're currently in the Cuba phase of supply chain. XD 🤦♂️
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane
I had the same problem looking for a 100-245 watt USB powerbank: both of the ones I'd settled on reportedly overheat at max output.
I had the same problem looking for a 100-245 watt USB powerbank: both of the ones I'd settled on reportedly overheat at max output.
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane
ExpressCard seems to be dead, but the MXM format for GPUs is still kicking.
Actually considered getting an Elitebook 8560w just for that, power efficiency be damned.
ExpressCard seems to be dead, but the MXM format for GPUs is still kicking.
Actually considered getting an Elitebook 8560w just for that, power efficiency be damned.
Expresscard was so underutilized 😭
Everyone raving about how incredible thunderbolt is, when expresscard was that, plus it let expansions fit inside the machine! Who needs external expansion when you have internal expansion you don't have to unplug every time you move your laptop???
@OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
Press "F" to pay respects to laptop card slots.
I will never forgive humanity for this.
@OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
* laughs, then weeps uncontrollably in "all you need is one or two USB-C ports, RIGHT?"
kabel42@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
I know, I know it's crazy fast and capable. It's just kinda... meh. ;)
Gimme full USB-A. Gimme SD (not micro). Gimme card slots. XD
...heck, GIMME A TRACKBALL, FtLoG! (For the Love of God)
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
USB-C is in the top three worst designed connector of all time tbh. And it's a _very_ fierce competition, so that's saying a lot.
@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @moses_izumi
What're the other two?
At least it's easy to insert, and reversible.
Would you rather CENTRONIX?!? XD
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
Yo even miniUSB is better.
Micro USB is of course one of the other two. I forget what the third one is at the moment
@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @moses_izumi
It was definitely easier to see which way to insert MiniUSB, but the whole idea behind MicroUSB was to be more durable.
I think Lightning is horrible because it's proprietary, and USB 2-only.
Centronix and similar classic parallel buses (like SCSI) were very unwieldy, and not fun to use.
Screw terminals like on RS-232 and VGA were annoying, but secure. Meh. ;)
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
MicroUSB is probably the single least durable connector ever made (with USB-C being second) XD
@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @moses_izumi
The only connector I've had that I saw have durability issues is Lightning, and that's because they were designed to fray.
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
I have to keep reminding people, when they say something is durable, or that they've never had problems with it, that I don't work a desk job ;)
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane @moses_izumi 3.5mm and 2.5mm audio jack, making all the connection during pluging and unpluging and i've killed so many headphone cables...
@kabel42 @rl_dane @moses_izumi
I don't understand what you're saying?
@kabel42 @rl_dane @moses_izumi
Oh, well, too be fair, TRRS jacks sucking is all apple's fault.
@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @moses_izumi
Ever saw TRRRS video cables? Those were a trip. XD
My PSOne used it, and I got an adapter so I could plug in a "broken" VCR to use as a cable TV tuner circa 2001.
So, I spent a couple years watching TV on a 5" LCD.
I miss the eyes of my youth. XD
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
I have many. The trouble with TRRS jacks is really that (again, largely thanks to Apple) no one can agree if the ground should be the last ring (duhhhhhhhh) or the second to last ring (genuinely what the _fuck_ Apple??)
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane @moses_izumi I've seen devices use those as serial interface and the handbook tells you to never plug/unplug the thing while the device is powered or you short the powersupply 🥳
@kabel42 @rl_dane @moses_izumi
Well, I'll admit, using a shorting connector for a short sensitive application is stupid. It's all about the right connector for the job. USB-C just claims to be suitable for all jobs when it's actually suitable for none.
@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
The 2nd and later gen iPod Shuffle used TRRS as a USB port. XD
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign
Dongle Hell might've been okay if every laptop had a tiny drawer under the keyboard.
Dongle Hell might've been okay if every laptop had a tiny drawer under the keyboard.
@moses_izumi @OpenComputeDesign
Kind of like the Apple II: no external ports, but internal room to connect stuff, and just route the cables through slots in the back. XD
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign
Was thinking more of kiosk setups where the computer is stuffed into a locked cupboard.
(Folding ribbon cables is actually kinda cozy)
Was thinking more of kiosk setups where the computer is stuffed into a locked cupboard.
(Folding ribbon cables is actually kinda cozy)
@kabel42 @OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi
Basically. A little narrower, but way more capable than PCMCIA/PC Card.
Bonus points if you remember the faux acronym People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms. ;)
@rl_dane @kabel42 @moses_izumi
I can only remember my PCMCIA/YMCA parody :P
@OpenComputeDesign @kabel42 @moses_izumi
Oh, that's fun. XD
I can visualize an advert featuring PC Card NICs and Modems singing that. XD
@rl_dane @OpenComputeDesign @moses_izumi I think i had a 10/100 mbit nic and later a 802.11b WiFi card :)
@kabel42 @rl_dane @moses_izumi
Basically, yeah.
iirc, OG PCMCIA=ISA, "PC Card" Updated PCMCIA=PCI+ISA, Expresscard=PCI-E+USB
@rl_dane I really would like to see computers get fun again.
Although, with the only color options being "The usual dystopian grey", "Not even as pink as a white shirt washed with colors", "Strange yellow", and "deathstar blue", they really still pale in comparison to the proper candyshop of colours you could get circa y2k. (Although, even then, woulda liked to see nice red and purple options)
@OpenComputeDesign @rl_dane let's go back to thinkspads with magnesium housing :)
although most are now covered with sticky black goo
although most are now covered with sticky black goo