#Russia discovering the old proverb about your own medicine….

@kravietz the people are the victim of every war. Putin decided to invade Ukraine, not the Russian people.

As much as I support Ukraine defending themselves and I hope they win, I find that rejoicing because people are terrified of drone attacks is sick, no matter the nationality of said people.

@FelisCatus Oh come on. The same poor people who are terrified in Novorossiysk would be happy to spent their summer times in Crimea and proudly wear CCCP t-shirts. Sorry, but I don't buy this shit that russians are good but only the president is bad.

@kravietz

@FelisCatus @kravietz Oh well, some vatniks trying to push the idea that most people in ruSSia don’t support the war ended up blocking me.

Evening well spent ✌️

@pawka @FelisCatus @kravietz I personally don't think that majority is supporting. Majority usually trying to ignore the terrible reality. This is coping mechanisms of any human psychic when you are basically trapped in terrible reality. Most of the ppl in general prefer not to get too much in bad things. Not defending anyone but these specifics should be taken into consideration.

@xorgrox

I have already said that in my first comment - the reality in Russia had not been always “terrible”. On one hand they had free press and free speech well until 2022. On the other hand, they had Putin increasing government control over media, killing journalists and opposition figures, establishing Internet censorship.

Vast majority of Russians simply didn’t give a shit about any restrictions when they were being introduced. If anything they opportunistically supported the “strong hand” image Putin built around himself. They both metaphorically and literally built the prisons they’re now being jailed into for “crimes” like placing a like (!) on a VK post that says “stop war”.

So, as someone who spent ~20 years going to Russia and arguing with them about their perfect nihilism and watching them either defend Putin or say straight to my face they don’t give a shit about some killed journalists - I have zero sympathy. And those who deserved it have long left Russia.

And yes, Russians can perfectly play victims against all evidence and pretend they didn’t do or say things they said an hour before - in this aspect it’s often like talking to a 5 years old with mouth full of chocolate denying he touched any chocolate. I can assure you when the war is over and ~5 years passes, Russia will be the first to moan that it has lost the most people in this war - and they will come with 100x inflated numbers of KIA & WIA they’re now carefully hiding - and that they are the actual victim of the war. And the question who started - who said the literal words “I have made a decision to start the Special Military Operation in Ukraine” - won’t really matter, they will just say “it’s complicated, let’s think about future”.

@pawka @FelisCatus

@kravietz @pawka @FelisCatus Thank you. This is very detailed and I agree.