We can play the headline game every time their imperialist wars start.
@ErikUden in Israel journalist can move and acces the sites. In Iran they cannot. It's not laways the conspiracy you're looking for.

@sfb @ErikUden you’re saying we don’t know who bombed Iran?

Also, in Gaza, Israel excludes journalists for precisely the reason you highlight

@urlyman @sfb @ErikUden

We might genuinely not know in this instance. Because it could have been either Israel or the US.

@frog_reborn Ok. But Erik’s essential point is still well made. This pattern plays out wherever power wants to give itself permission to absolve itself and/or cast the other side as entirely at fault.

Please note: I’m *not* batting for Iran’s theocracy. They’re a grim collection of psychopaths. But the Anglo-American lust for power at any cost (to which we can import Israel) is not nothing here https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115594340434843008

@sfb @ErikUden

Assal Rad (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image The difference is by design.

Mastox
@urlyman @sfb @ErikUden Yeah, it is completely possible that Iranian state lies, and the same is true for Israeli media. Only thing we know for certain is that these armies kill people.

@sfb

Are you attempting to propose journalists have more freedom in Israel, when they have just spent the last 2 years perpetrating a genocide which has been the deadliest conflict for journalists in history.

Erik is spot on.

@sfb @ErikUden you haven't been paying attention, journalists are being targeted and murdered by IDF snipers. In Israel journalists can definitely not "move and access the sites"
Israel committed two-thirds of record press killings in 2025: Committee to Protect Journalists

The group said the number of journalists killed in Ukraine and Sudan also increased in 2025 compared to a year earlier, noting a rise in the use of drones and a culture of impunity.

Courthouse News Service
@disisdeguey @ErikUden This isn:t even about taking sides. This is about access to sites. I know, it's complicated. <3
@sfb @ErikUden NYT and mostly all western media have been doing this with #genocideingaza for the last two years.
So yes, it's about taking sides and no, it's not complicated. It's propaganda.

@sfb

242 journalists have been killed by Israeli forces in Gaza as of 11 August 2025. That's not press freedom in Israel. (UN). But, you already knew that.

See, authoritarian state Likud propaganda appears, even here.

@ErikUden

@sfb @ErikUden anyone thinking that journalists, and specifically the one in charge of writing headlines (which usually are not the one writing the article linked to), selects the words without accounting for the resulting framing of a sentence, is probably a bit naive
@sfb @ErikUden the audacity to say this after the fact that Israel is the single biggest killer of journalists worldwide of the 21st century. Woah.
@Shine_McShine @ErikUden doesn't change the fact that journalists can verify things in Israel while they can't in Iran. At least for now.
@sfb @Shine_McShine @ErikUden That’s bullshit. Many reputable news agencies operate bureaus in Iran.
@ErikUden No objection to your general point here but the "Iran says" vs. "9 killed" tging is probably due to the fact that it's easier for journalist in Israel to verify these kinds of claims than it is in Iran because there is more freedom of the press in Israel.
@ErikUden While I think reading the NYT is a bit silly these days -- I must comment on your markup! I've been loving the crayon pencil on screenshots too lately 🖍️
@ErikUden
Can that help end the imperialist wars?
@nuwagaba2 Yes. Accountability and accurate understanding within the electorate is key to ending these wars. @ErikUden
@tokyo_0
That sounds great. Let's focus on that.
@ErikUden
It is sickening, thanks for highlighting this. The entire world needs to abolish corrupted journalism which choses sides in any way even as subtle as grammar.
@ErikUden This is mass media!
@ErikUden Swop out the specific actors with ‘our enemies’, ‘our allies’ to make it non specific and timeless (I hesitate to let the propaganda rags of various countries off the hook) but you could have a generic newspaper type title that works across borders as well, tighten up the layout and it would make an excellent propaganda awareness raising T shirt/ Poster.
Iran Says Dozens Are Killed in Strike on School

The strike on an elementary school in the southern Iran town of Minab was one of two attacks that appear to have hit schools during U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran on Saturday.

The New York Times
@ErikUden Looking at the news in general, I'm seeing /iranian hits all over the middle east, and well, nothing from Trumpistan / Israel. There's no apparent goal for this war, and Iran seems to be doing better? MAGA???!
U.S. Troops Told Iran War Is For 'Armageddon,' Return Of Jesus

More than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation from Saturday morning through Monday night.

Crooks and Liars
@ErikUden Someone was paid to do this, has a name, and has emails or full on documents telling them to do this. NYT and WaPo need to get popped.
@ErikUden and it's amazing how few consciously recognise the difference.
Western Gangster Journalism Runs Cover for Trump’s ‘Donroe Doctrine’ in Venezuela

With the White House pushing to impose a semi-colonial protectorate on Venezuela, corporate outlets continue to normalize US imperialist predations.

FAIR

@ErikUden

We are living in the age of deception and propaganda. News is just a tool for manipulating people and building false Narratives.

@ErikUden I know it's very popular to shit on "tha Meedeeyuh" at every opportunity, but this example is ignorant and childish.

Convenient that you left out the timestamp for the first one, which I'm sure was much earlier.

Both are newsworthy and accurate, but made with different verifiable facts.

You're free to play this ignorant, childish game on someone else's time. Bye.

@wesdym @blueluma kindly posted the links to both sources.

158 mostly very young girls were destroyed by the US_ISR attack on their schools Sat. 28th when the number of fatalities was unknown.

Many -- at least 20 -- were still missing / under the rubble in Bet Shemesh in the aftermath of the Iranian ripost: Number of fatalities is unknown.

Hence your argument is mostly biased and pointless. Jee, this "soft" propaganda in MSM has been shown, mocked and even studied academically.
@ErikUden

@ErikUden
It could be rewritten as:
USA and Israeli precision missile attack kills 165 kids while attending at school.

Or:
Trump and Netanyahu murder 165 school girls in terror attack on Iranian school in Minab.