AMD has finally announced the next series of 35-watt and 65-watt desktop APUs to follow up the Ryzen 8000G/GE series. these are the chips which get used in "1-liter" PCs from major manufacturers, among other things.
@arstechnica: AMD Ryzen AI 400 chips will bring newer CPUs, GPUs, and NPUs to AM5 desktops
I gotta say I'm disappointed at the amount of cache not increasing, but they are speccing these chips for compact single-user business desktops.
if you are sticking to #1LPC systems, the tradeoff is between getting a system from a major manufacturer like HP or Lenovo with one of these and then enjoying the parts availability, firmware updates, etc which comes with that.... or buying a similarly sized box from a small manufacturer with higher-end laptop silicon in it, which doesn't come with those ecosystem benefits (and maybe sounds like a wind tunnel when you exercise it, depending on the thermal envelope).
unverified comment seen in the wild:
> Worth pointing out that these chips are downgrades from the 8700G in several ways. It goes from 8 Zen 4 cores to 4 Zen5 and 4 Zen 5c cores, and from 12CU RDNA 3 to 8CU RDNA 3.5.
hopefully AMD will release higher-end chips in the 400 G/GE series soon (as the numbering suggests) because if true, this is not great for people trying to use them in mini servers - one of the draws of 5000G/GE and 8000G/GE is that all the cores are full-fat.
TechPowerUp:
> These are the company's second desktop APU generation on Socket AM5 following the Ryzen 8000G series "Phoenix Point." While "Phoenix Point" is based on "Zen 4," the newer Ryzen AI 400 series is built on the "Gorgon Point" silicon powered by the "Zen 5" microarchitecture.
> AMD hasn't maxed out the "Gorgon Point" silicon on the desktop Ryzen AI 400G series … The fully unlocked "Gorgon Point" silicon has 12 cores, 4 of which are "Zen 5," and 8 of which are "Zen 5c." [But] AMD configured [the Ryzen AI 7 450] silicon with 4 "Zen 5" and 4 "Zen 5c" cores. The Ryzen AI 5 440 series chips are configured with 3 "Zen 5" and 3 "Zen 5c" cores. The Ryzen AI 5 435 series chips come with 2 "Zen 5" and 4 "Zen 5c" cores.
... #AMD sacrificed an all Zen 5 design AND a good chunk of the GPU capability for that NPU 🤢
not good news for #USFF homelabbers / couchlabbers / vanlabbers.
AMD earlier today announced the Ryzen AI 400 series desktop APUs in the Socket AM5 package. These are the company's second desktop APU generation on Socket AM5 following the Ryzen 8000G series "Phoenix Point." While "Phoenix Point" is based on "Zen 4," the newer Ryzen AI 400 series is built on the "...
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