what epilator brands/models do folk recommend? i'm intending to look for something relatively cheap but solid enough that it'll last a long time
@oli have you tried epilators before? for us the one we tried caused hella ingrown hair :/
@elexia i have not tried them before
@elexia @oli In that case I recommend water-proof epilators that can work when wet. It's much less painful than dry epilation, and makes cleaning the epilator easier.
@oli Saldo, a Swiss consumer protection magazine, tested various epilators last year, with Panasonic ES-EY30 showing the best results: https://www.saldo.ch/tests/produktetests/detail/artikeldetail/bei-einigen-epilierern-war-das-resultat-haarig (German language, paywalled)

I’m satisfied with mine.
Test: Bei einigen Epilierern war das Resultat haarig

Der beste Epilierer im Test entfernte Körperhaare sehr gut. Er verursachte aber auch am meisten Schmerzen. Die zwei günstigsten Geräte liessen viele Haare stehen.

saldo
@oli My attempt at a translation to English from the executive summary of German Stiftung Warentest (https://www.test.de/Epiliergeraete-im-Partnertest-Nur-jeder-zweite-Epilierer-ist-gut-6212457-0/):

“Only every second epilator scored ‘good’ [B or better in some school grading systems] in a test by Swiss consumer protection magazine Saldo. Eight epilators of well-known brands were tested, which are also available in Germany.

Good epilators work thoroughly: With the help of small tweezers placed on a drum, they pull out body hair including the root – this can hurt. But the suffering is worth it: According to Saldo, the legs can remain smooth for two to three weeks. No razor can match that.

The test winner was the battery-operated epilator ES-EY30 from Panasonic, which costs around 89 euros. ‘It removed the hair the neatest and fastest’, Saldo notes. With the naked eye, no hair was recognisable after application – not even in hard-to-reach places such as the hollow of the knees. A few points were however deducted because the test subjects described an unpleasant pulling sensation during epilation. According to Saldo, however, no redness was left behind on the skin.

The second-placed Silk-épil 9 flex from Braun worked less painful, but also slightly less effective. The battery-operated device – with a price starting at around 195 euros the most expensive in the test – left some visible hair on the shin after the first pass. In addition, not all hair had disappeared from the hollow of the knee.

Two epilators from Philips are also among the ‘good’ ones: The BRE 700 with a battery for around 64 euros, which, like the test winner, did not fare optimally in the category ‘pain/redness’, as well as the cabled device Satinelle Essential BRE 255 for around 45 euros: Though the latter may be inexpensive, it did not remove hair quite as reliably.”

En dashes are my own.
Epiliergeräte im Test: Nur jeder zweite Epilierer ist gut

Das Schweizer Verbrauchermagazin Saldo hat acht Epilierer von bekannten Marken geprüft. Teure Geräte sind unter den Besten.

@oli the Panasonic ES-EY30 has worked great for me, it's around 90€, which is relatively cheap
@oli I have used the philips series 8000(bre 700, without any extra attachments is 70 usd in their store) for a while

Mind you I don't think there is much of a difference between different epilators
@oli i bought the philips 8000 series, works great :3

epilators hurt like a TWAT though, but that makes sense since its yoinking a million hairs a second
@oli if you can find a safety blade handle and use it, it is much better than epilators
specially if your hair is thick
@efi @oli i made the opposite experience