Jay Thurber Show"But the Ayatollah was a bad guy!"
Just because citizens of another nation don't like their leader doesn't mean they want the U.S. dropping bombs on them. That would seem to be an obvious point.
I don't like the leader of the U.S. but I don't want China dropping bombs on us in order to effect "regime change." Seems to me the quickest way to unite any country is to attack them.
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CaliCarolWell said my friend.
Kevin Karhan 
@jaythurbershow You forget something:
It's only #nuclear / #VetoPowers bullying non-nuclear powers!
@kkarhan Yeah, that's actually a very good point. It's never equals. And as Paul Musgrave writes, it's virtually impossible for small nations to negotiate with the U.S. because of the power imbalance.
https://musgrave.substack.com/p/an-unpopular-doomed-bloody-war
@jaythurbershow one cannot negotiate with fascists anyway, espechally neither Trump nor Putin nor Xi nor Kimā¦
- The only form of negotiation they ubderstand is being firced into conditionless surrender at gunpoint !
noldiTo: Jay and everyone else, whom it may concern, hello!
1. How about, to move from only state an opinion at Mastodon, to building a better World ...
1.1 How about, to blacklist 'making war'' in the 21 Century?
1.2 Ex.: Writing a Constitution, where 'Donald' and 'Xi' - if they have a quarrel, to enter for ex. an 'Armbeuge-Contest'? Then the winner, takes all the voters from the looser, except the sovereigns ... Without any bombing, killing, destruction ...
Internet Rando@jaythurbershow at this point, I'd almost welcome some other country doing us said favor. Especially if it set the precedent; if your leader turns capitalist pedophile nazi, we'll relieve you of them.
I'm just spitballing here, but Germany didn't solve their own problem either, way back when.
Carolyn@jaythurbershow By that definition, Spanky should be bombed.
@CStamp Well Pete Hegseth and Kash Patel have probably been bombed all day.
Violet MadderAnd who else are they bombing, while they are at it?
What a convenient opportunity to erase whoever they wish, and never have to take responsibility or explain why.
For all we know, Iran could have significant networks of resistance who are building a whole new revolutionary way of doing things-- and by slamming the place from one oppressive exploitative regime to some other oppressive exploitative regime, the US is only trying to ensure they don't get actual self-determination or freedom.
Stable, secular democracies in the Middle East are just not allowed.
Aria <3 
@jaythurbershow You're implying him being a bad guy is entirely subjective and you don't nessesarily agree.
Do understand: he was a blood-soaked shit.
punIssuer@ariarhythmic no, we're with you on that.
It's that bombing him from another country likely won't bring the kind of change we hoped for
It's that bombing him from another country likely won't bring the kind of change we hoped for
@punissuer no doubt. no reason to believe whatever happens next in Iran won't be a US-backed fascist puppet state.
Licho@jaythurbershow trump is a bad guy too
Perma@jaythurbershow @wauz We wanted them. Thank you for your attention. Here is the video of people celebrating it. :)
D.EJE.D@jaythurbershow itās a very sleazy MO from these guys: slap āregime changeā to an international law violation where an obvious bad guy is taken out just so you can make the counterarguments of their actions something āimmoralā. I highly doubt North Korea will be dealt with a āregime changeā maneuver like this one because there is no oil over thereā¦
@EduEdu It is, indeed, a strange coincidence that regime changes keep happening in countries where there's oil. Maybe Texas should be next?
David Penington@jaythurbershow With estimates of 30,000 dead to government suppressive actions, Iranian people were already experiencing the effects of war. With the crash in their economy last year, they were already desperate.