Lokjo - a European online mapQuick question
Should OSM-data be charged a fee for when corporations use it?
(profit would go to OSM project)
no, data is free for everyone
yes, for corporate use
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Valerio Bozz@lokjo Bonus point: pay a billion fees if you don't put OSM credits
James Derrick
Thibaultmol 🌈@lokjo I'm surprised by how many people are talking about paying for data.
- it would increase scraping which hurts osm more because of increased server usage
- corporations might stop using osm and switch to something else. The more people/corps use osm data, the better
- the whole point of it being open is so that people can use it
- it would increase scraping which hurts osm more because of increased server usage
- corporations might stop using osm and switch to something else. The more people/corps use osm data, the better
- the whole point of it being open is so that people can use it
The thing is, OSM data is ment for free usage, because it is compiled by volunteers, and to power everybody.
When a corporation uses it -and makes money with it- the result is not just that all volunteers become free workers for corporations, it also powers corporations to overtake those places of small companies again, and save €millions, which could have been invested in the OSM project.
Marián Kyral@lokjo @thibaultmol And that's why there is a Corporate membership and other forms of support.
Yes I know, I've wrote about that a while ago.
It's not good since 1) it's voluntairely, and 2) the highest membership fee for companies who have a "revenue in the hundreds of millions" is €30.000 per year, which is rediculously low.
The real question is: do OSMF need much more money? Are there any plans what to do with them? They can easily increase fee if needed (and agreed)
https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Finances
Also donations and membership fees are much better for foundation. You are not doing this for profit.
@thibaultmol @lokjo OK, but this is responsibility of OSMF. They decide. Maybe they need just better leader. Someone who knows how to negotiate with big companies. How to properly handle Overture maps situation.
Amᵃᵖanda | map data witch@mkyral @thibaultmol @lokjo Overture exists *because* the OpenStreetMap community rejected the “leadership” of those companies.
Just look at OSMF Board elections for the ca. 10 years beforehand. Constantly full of “I'll be the candidate for Facebook, and we should replace everything with AI, or we're dooomed!”
@amapanda @thibaultmol @lokjo Yes, I know. By better leader I don't mean someone working for big tech companies.
Matv1
Ati@lokjo I don't think this question is a good use of time.
The OSM licence allows corporations to use OSM data w/o a fee. I don't think you'll get the OSM community to do a licence change (again!) to block this.
Like it or not, corporations will always be allowed to use OSM data w/o a fee.