Niels De GraefFeb 25
Hylke Bons 🥜

only been back to GNOME full-time for about 2 months and whenever I open my MacBook it's jarring...

nothing is polished anymore. everything is a bit ugh. and I haven't even upgraded to the latest macOS yet.

times have changed. designers use #Linux.

Feb 24 at 12:53pmWeb
Show threadSpringy Owlbear Feb 24
@hbons I am a HUGE Gnome fan, and have been since 3.0. I'm currently playing around with Dank Linux/Niri, though, and I gotta admit that after a brief adjustment, it's also a fantastic and beautiful workflow.
Show threadSpringy Owlbear Feb 24
@hbons I am a HUGE Gnome fan, and have been since 3.0. I'm currently playing around with Dank Linux/Niri, though, and I gotta admit that after a brief adjustment, it's also a fantastic and beautiful workflow.
Show threadAndrew GravesFeb 24

@hbons

While I've never used GNOME for various reasons, I've always preferred GTK over QT. Nicer themes and the general design approach felt more natural to me.

Show threadPetr FerschmannFeb 24
@hbons I more then agree. Returned 1,5 year back and gnome is just nicer and more easy to use
Show threadLouis SalkeldFeb 24
@hbons I took this absolute banger screenshot on my iPhone the other day
Show threadDuffeliciousFeb 24
@hbons depends on the distro and window manager in the end, some apps get ugly borders, the theming community is complaining about gnome getting harder and harder to theme.
Show threadAdrien PlazasFeb 25
@duffelicious @hbons That's because GNOME doesn't support theming, and that's the case since a very, very long time, likely about 15 years now. It's like complaining that dolphins don't fly well. And not supporting themes brought GNOME an incredible amount of benefits.
Show threadDuffeliciousFeb 25
@KekunPlazas @hbons That is also true, and i can follow that from an SW perspective.
Show threadDuffeliciousFeb 25
@KekunPlazas @hbons I hope the Linux desktop gets more attention in this anti-US momentum.
Show threadokrFeb 24
@hbons I use a mac for work and every morning when I open it it feels like someone tried to hack together a nice Linux desktop and failed
Show thread^[[200~MichaelFeb 24
@hbons I pressed the Windows key on my work laptop, then read all the posts on this thread and the start menu hasn't opened yet! 😄
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26

@hbons I’m still a Mac-only user, but Linux attracts me more and more as Apple’s enshittification proceeds. I wonder though if the installation procedure and user-friendliness of Asahi Linux suffices for my lazy ass who is used to “It just works”, with little to no Terminal hassle. 😅

https://asahilinux.org

#linux #MacOS

Asahi Linux

Show threadJohnnyvibrantFeb 26
@metin @hbons embrace the terminal…it’s really not so bad 😊
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26
@johnnyvibrant @hbons 😅 Once upon a time, in the mid-1990s, I frequently used Unix on my Amiga 4000, to communicate with the Sun systems and Silicon Graphics systems where I worked at the time. 🙂
Show threadJohnnyvibrantFeb 26
@metin @hbons to this day I still love Amiga. It was simply the best, so full of great graphics software. Linux is close…in fact, nah, I’m gonna say it…Krita is my favourite application, the quality is amazing, the hope for its future is so positive. ( I like my painting apps so much)
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26
@johnnyvibrant @hbons 👍 @PyDPainter is a very accurate, authentic recreation of the legendary Deluxe Paint pixel editor. You can run it on both MacOS and Linux. I love it. It’s my go-to pixel editor, like DPaint was.
Show threadRenFeb 26
@metin @hbons Asahi will not, its honestly a miracle it runs at all since every single aspect of an M1 device is locked down and/or proprietary. You can use it, its not like its unusable, but don't expect a seamless "it just works" experence
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26

@rogueren @hbons Thanks. That's a pity. It would be great if I could keep my desktop Mac and transition to Linux on that machine.

I hope once I'm ready for the move, the RAM circus hasn't made all hardware much more expensive. 😓

Show threadRenFeb 26
@metin @hbons You may have luck finding the last gen of Intel Macs that they made and installing Linux on that.
Show threadHylke Bons 🥜Feb 26
@metin will have to wait for M3 support so I may have sold it for a Framework by then. :)
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26

@hbons Framework, interesting. Is that a dedicated Linux machine?

One of the most important properties of hardware to me is silence. That's where desktop Macs shine.

Show threadHylke Bons 🥜Feb 26
@metin it’s a beautiful laptop that you can repair and upgrade: https://frame.work/nl/en
Introducing the Framework Desktop and newest Framework Laptop 13

Choose between our latest Framework Laptop 13 powered by Ryzen™ AI 300 Series processors or our brand new Framework Desktop with Ryzen™ AI Max Series processors.

Framework
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26
@hbons The Framework PCs look very interesting, thanks for the tip. They've also got a desktop, and they're in the Netherlands too, nice! 👍
Show threadHylke Bons 🥜Feb 26
@metin agree. silence and battery life will be hard to give up…
Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Mar 4

@hbons I forgot that M3 support has recently been added to Asahi Linux:

https://lobste.rs/s/cm3wkh

Fedora Asahi Remix is now working on Apple M3

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Show threadSebastiaanFeb 26
@metin @hbons Asahi is very much alpha quality, so it won't "just work". If you want a better Linux experience, go with a mature distro on X86_64 hardware (for now)
Show threadOle-André RodlieFeb 26

@metin Moving from macOS to Linux might be hard, many things don't "just works". You will also notice a ton of small QoL things from macOS that are now missing.

Creative software support is another thing. Also, hardware support for M series is also limited (if at all).

Show threadMetin Seven 🎨Feb 26
@rodlie Thanks! I’ll keep an eye on the Linux developments. Maybe in a few years I’ll sell my Mac and buy a system with the most accessible Linux pre-installed. 🙂
Show threadOle-André RodlieFeb 26
@metin Linux is not bad, but some tinkering is needed. The desktop is also in a bit of flux at the moment, with the migration to Wayland etc. Things will probably improve with time. If you have a spare Intel Mac you can always spin up a live distro and play around.
Show threadadacostaFeb 26
@metin @hbons You are asking for an immediate downgrade in user experience. To justify enshittification, you really got detail it. If its about Tahoe, I think it boils down to personal preference, but I have not seen any regression in the general functionality of the OS. I launch apps, browse the web, listen to music, watch YouTube just the same as I did on Tiger, Mavericks, Mojave and Sequoia