JoinFediverseWikiFeb 25
PaulaToThePeople 😷

What is surveillance-fascism?
(a.k.a. what is the Fediverse missing?)

* big data
(collection of tons of private data used for profiling and authoritarian control)
* attention harvesting
(reducing attentionspan and causing addiction)
* ragebaiting
(hatred boosting alorithms & government botfarms)
* hyper-capitalism
(ads, more ads, profit, hidden ads, influencers, interrupting ads, plugs, camoflaged ads)
* AI

#SurveillanceFascism #SurveillanceCapitalism #enshittification #BigData #AttentionHarvesting #RageBait #HyperCapitalism #AI #LLMMeAlone #JoinTheFediverse

Feb 25 at 5:17amWeb
Show threadGabor HraskoFeb 25

@PaulaToThePeople @CosminOprescu AI is misplaced. It is not a functionality or feature, it is more infrastructure. It is like electricity. Imagine your - otherwise good - list with a final, explanation-less item:

*electricity

AI, as an enabler infrastructure plays role in all 4 of your other feature points. But AI is and can be used for good as well.

It is probably the very controversial big tech use of AI you think about. But that is covered in the 4 points already.

Show threadPapa Exmatrikulatus 🏴🏳️‍🌈Feb 25
@ghrasko @CosminOprescu
Example: Grok is directly integrated into Twitter --> AI is also a distinct point to make
Show threadKarl Voit  Feb 25
@PaulaToThePeople Glassholes
Show threadJoachim SénéFeb 25
@PaulaToThePeople This is nothing different than "surveillance capitalism" as defined by Shoshana Zuboff. Capitalism leads to fascism under certain circumstances, both are very compatible. Ads, more ads etc., is not "hyper capitalism", just basic capitalism. Capitalism is bad enough and current forms of fascism are using it very naturally and very efficiency.
Show threadStrypeyFeb 27

@jsene
> This is nothing different than "surveillance capitalism" as defined by Shoshana Zuboff

There seems to be a lot of confusion about Zuboff's phrase. As I understand it, what it's referencing is that surveillance used to be a state function, and business people had as much incentive as anyone else to criticise and limit it. Then surveillance advertising was invented, and state-corporate surveillance merged by the Patriot Act, PRIMS, etc.

#SurveillanceCapitalism

@PaulaToThePeople

Show threadskaphleFeb 25

@PaulaToThePeople While I agree in general, I have less optimism that the fediverse is really free from that.

Big data: most of Fedi is completely open. Isn't that an invitation to scrape? I'm pretty sure there's a lot authoritarians can do with that data even if it's not explicitly personal.

Ragebaiting: that depends also a bit on the habits of users. Sure, a lot is algorithms and bots on other platforms, but a lot of us, myself included, boost stuff that touch us emotionally, and sometimes stuff is shared faster than checked. It's certainly better here though and more of a challenge and a fault to overcome than something we have to endure helplessly.

Show threadPaulaToThePeople 😷Feb 25

@skaphle Yes sure data being scraped from the Fediverse happens like everywhere on the web. But big data is not used by Fediverse services.

Same whith ragebaiting: yes, it happens all over the internet. It's not programmed into Fediverse software though.