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My son bought a second-hand Windows 11 PC for games, and has been having BSOD issues with the graphics card since he got it. Out of desperation he tried installing Bazzite on it, which I encouraged, but was also trying not to get his hopes up, telling him that the some things might not work. But he reports that "absolutely everything works better than Windows".
I suggested he use KDE for the desktop, and he is blown away about how good everything looks, and how easy the user experience is. He has used Linux for a bit probably 7 or 8 years ago when he used a salvaged laptop at uni that had Ubuntu on it, and he remembers that being a bit janky and frustrating, but now he's decided that he'll wipe the Windows partition and stay with Linux.
So keep it up, clever people that are making Linux distros and software, you're winning.
#Linux #Bazzite #KDE #Steam

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Nazo Feb 23

@stib It's worth noting too that Ubuntu is GNOME-based and he probably just didn't like that.

Though I won't deny that things have very definitely improved pretty quickly in the Linux world. I too recently finally tossed out Windows even as a long time gamer. I've been with MS since MS-DOS 6.22 and some Windows 3.1 for gaming, so for them to make me finally declare that Windows is completely beyond redemption and that I will never ever install it on my machine again kind of says something I think. I didn't stick with it because it was great. I put up with all their crap to a point. But Windows 10 was already pushing past what I would tolerate and then they made 11. I hope Microsoft goes bankrupt.

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Nechesh Feb 23

@nazokiyoubinbou @stib gnome ui is actively hostile to most users. I genuinely don't understand why anyone uses it these days.

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Mike

Feb 23

@nechesh @nazokiyoubinbou @stib to be fair. If your needs align with gnome. It's fine. I daily drive gnome I can customize the few things I want. And everything else just works out of the box.

I want to like kde but I'm always frustrated by it.

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stib Feb 23

@codemonkeymike @nechesh @nazokiyoubinbou Gnome seems to have copied the Apple philosphy of "we'll make everything really nice, but you won't be able to customise it because we know best", which works, until it doesn't. I'm a tweak-freak so eventually something about the desktop environment will enough me until I end up breaking things trying to fix it (for Gnome it was the way all the corners are getting rounder and rounder until the whole thing looks like it was designed by Fisher Price so that toddlers don't cut themselves on any sharp edges).
I mean I used to run Litestep on my XP machine. I modified the shell so much that I managed to completely remove explorer.exe. It was great, but not, in hindsight, the best use of my time.

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Mike

Feb 23

@stib @nechesh @nazokiyoubinbou meanwhile KDE (the most customizable DE ever) can't handle Alt + Tab properly.

You should be able to Alt + Tab. (keep holding alt) see all your icons... then hover over the icon you want to switch to.. and when you let go of alt, it switches to it.

Gnome, cinnamon, MacOS, Windows, etc all work like that.. yet somehow Plasma.. its not possible.

So yes.. even they seem to be silly opinionated

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stib

@codemonkeymike
Wait, I'm pretty sure KDE has a task switcher, and it's invoked with alt+tab by default ...?
https://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings/Task_Switcher

@nechesh @nazokiyoubinbou

System Settings/Task Switcher - KDE UserBase Wiki

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Nazo Feb 23

@stib @[email protected] @nechesh It does indeed do that with alt-tab and you can configure a lot about the alt-tab behavior. I guess they want very very specific functionality (namely specific handling of mouse hovering,) but I think it can do all that in fact.

EDIT: They can't see my message though I guess. I see they're on fosstodon which I have blocked.

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Mike

Feb 23

@nazokiyoubinbou @stib @nechesh trust me.. i've been throuhg it a million times..

Alt tab can be configured to look ok.. but you mouse hover won't switch the app.. only click, tab or mouse wheel.

I know its a silly thing but workflow thing that other major DE's have and it's a big flow thing for me. I'm always shocked there is no way to make Plasma do it..

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stib Feb 23

@codemonkeymike
Ah, OK. Gotcha.
@nazokiyoubinbou @nechesh