stibFeb 23
My son bought a second-hand Windows 11 PC for games, and has been having BSOD issues with the graphics card since he got it. Out of desperation he tried installing Bazzite on it, which I encouraged, but was also trying not to get his hopes up, telling him that the some things might not work. But he reports that "absolutely everything works better than Windows".
I suggested he use KDE for the desktop, and he is blown away about how good everything looks, and how easy the user experience is. He has used Linux for a bit probably 7 or 8 years ago when he used a salvaged laptop at uni that had Ubuntu on it, and he remembers that being a bit janky and frustrating, but now he's decided that he'll wipe the Windows partition and stay with Linux.
So keep it up, clever people that are making Linux distros and software, you're winning.
#Linux #Bazzite #KDE #Steam
Show threadNazoFeb 23

@stib It's worth noting too that Ubuntu is GNOME-based and he probably just didn't like that.

Though I won't deny that things have very definitely improved pretty quickly in the Linux world. I too recently finally tossed out Windows even as a long time gamer. I've been with MS since MS-DOS 6.22 and some Windows 3.1 for gaming, so for them to make me finally declare that Windows is completely beyond redemption and that I will never ever install it on my machine again kind of says something I think. I didn't stick with it because it was great. I put up with all their crap to a point. But Windows 10 was already pushing past what I would tolerate and then they made 11. I hope Microsoft goes bankrupt.

Show threadNecheshFeb 23
@nazokiyoubinbou @stib gnome ui is actively hostile to most users. I genuinely don't understand why anyone uses it these days.
Show threadNazo

@nechesh @stib It's made to resemble Apple systems, so I suppose that those trying to escape Apple's grip probably find it more comfortable.

On the one hand, I'm ok with easing Apple users over. On the other hand, does it have to be so bloated and the default on so many things?

Sometimes it feels to me like GNOME has actually taken Apple's whole way of thinking. "We'll decide for you what's best so don't do any thinking for yourself anymore."

Feb 23 at 4:37amWeb
Show threadstibFeb 23
@nazokiyoubinbou @nechesh Can confirm. As a rcovered MacOS fanboy I like the look of Gnome, when the look works and doesn't randomly chuck some light-themed windows in my fastidiously dark themed world because it seems impossible to consistently theme GTK apps without it being a full time job. KDE was always too windows-ish for me. I have begun to overcome my allergy to Qt though.
But these days I prefer ultra-minimalist tiling WMs like Sway. If I need widgets or control panels I'm happier using the terminal or a TUI app.
Show threadNazoFeb 23

@stib @nechesh Sadly the theming stuff seems to be hard on everything I guess. I think it's this sort of issue: https://xkcd.com/927/

They all do it a bunch of different ways and since no one seems to be able to agree on it it's just resulting in any attempts to fix it just adding to the problem instead.

Well, it's weird you're fine with QT since it's sort of the same system KDE is built on, just much more minimal. I've given LXQT a shot a few times and it's not bad though! It doesn't have much configuration, but it still gives the user more control over some basics than XFCE4 does. (I definitely can't get behind Sway though. Too minimal for me!)

But in the end, yeah, if I'm introducing an Apple user to Linux I'd tell them GNOME and if a Windows user I'd tell them KDE.

Standards

xkcd
Show threadstibFeb 23
@nazokiyoubinbou @nechesh I think that's why I like Sway. All the configuration is more or less left up to you, and the whole ecosystem is designed to be tweaked by the user so the process is generally straightforward and well-documented.
Of course the downside it that all the configuration is more or less left up to you, so if you have more in your life than making your user interface on your lappietappie just perfect then you need to re-prioritise. But if I wasn't fiddling with dotfiles I'd probably be out doing crimes and making a ruckus so there's that …