On second thought, this sorta scenario does seem a bit odd. Like, the first person basically admits by implication to snooping around the second person’s personal stuff but expects the other person to be embarrassed by this?
It’sabout emotions. Those aren’t rational. That’s why I try to avoid them as the plague.
Avoiding your emotions is a great strategy for having a middle-age breakdown like no other.
Chances are still open that we’re all dead before I get to middle-age.
People say that every generation and as a result we have a whole-ass society who never made actual plans for themselves of their community, from the death-cult evangelicals who think World War 3 is a good thing because it means Jesus is going to take them away to play with their dead grandma and dead pets, to the tech-oligarchs and their fetid simp followers who think we’re going to have a “singularity” any year now and everyone is going to get whisked away to play with their virtual dead grandma and dead pets.
Let’s not forget the perpetually fucked who keep getting to major milestones in their life only to find the world has taken a big shit on their prospects, ie, the young uns now.
Now on principal the first person is wrong. But it does depend on what they found…
A flashlight and a salad mixer
Who doesn’t like some light salad tossing?
A Lemmy user’s worst nightmare. Somebody finding out what porn they’ve been looking at. Progressive in so many ways except when it comes to porn.

Progressive in so many ways except when it comes to porn.

What’s so non-progressive about futa furry chicks with massive dicks?

If beastiality is progressive then im voting red.
Anthro isn’t even close to bestiality.
You didn’t have to do yourself like that fam.
I don’t have to, but I sure like to.
Lola Bunny is apparently responsible for the rise of fascism, that’s the real reason why the liberals (🤮) desexualized her in Space Jam: A New Legacy.
Let’s not forget the sexiest of M&Ms.
… What? You got something to back that tall tale up with?
Yes, dummy, Professor Zoom admitted it himself.
No evidence, then? OK.

Hilarious to see a bigoted liberal who doesn’t know what a liberal is thinking they’re debating a chud under a joke about chuds not knowing what liberals are.

The funniest part is liberals did desexualize Lola Bunny for advertisers, and we have chuds genuinely energised by decisions like that as an indicator of the woke mob’s power.

You’re being a punchline to like, four unintended layers of irony under a joke that references the gif where Professor Zoom makes Lola Bunny less sexy so Barry doesn’t get horny and he can kill Iris.

I can’t tell if this is great writing on my part.

Hitchen’s Razor.
So long as it passes the Harkness Test it isn’t bestiality.
It is crazy how many men get pissed when you tell them that “futa” is a slur; often because “everyone uses it.”

“futa” is a slur

Maybe if you’re using it to refer to trans women.

But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about imaginary furry girls who were either born that way or magicked up a dick somehow.

My guy, trans women are real, objectifying depictions of them in fiction are imaginary. If you make a stereotypical and dehumanizing representation of a real group of people, I’m afraid that you can’t just say “well, I made it up,” and dissuade any criticism of how this relates to real world politics and its violence. Incredible porn-brained reasoning here.
I’d say equating people’s fantasies with real people is the real dehumanizing thing. Rational people are able to separate fantasy and reality… why arent you?

“Listen pal, just because you think my blackface is making fun of black people, that’s on you. This is my own dark-urban elf character, Tyronicus, who just happens to also have red lips and is only in my story to be a member of a criminal organization which dark-urban elves like him love to do, that isn’t based on anything in reality, and you’re racist if you think so. It’s also called gaslicking, BTW.”

I don’t know how you people can take yourselves seriously.

Nice rage baiting. Almost had me for a second, but nobody can be this detached from reality. Anyway, have a good day. I’m gonna crank one out to my futa porn on your behalf.

I know you chuds love soyjokes or whatever, I had exactly one on hand that flashed in my memory when I read this desperate plea for a woman’s attention.

I’ll admit I’ve never seen futa as harmful, but I also admit this comparison made me think.

We’re not totally okay with characters like Mr Popo from Dragonball because they’re somewhat close to harmful stereotypes, even if he’s fantasy-based and it wasn’t intended.

I feel like if the practice is based on genuine fetish and not any notable efforts to harm a community, that could be taken into account. I’d mostly just rather culture fights take aim at those forms of pointed harm; but I’d also want to know how many other trans people might feel impacted.

My guy, trans women are real,

And furry futa women are not.

I’m sorry that you are just now learning that your porn world doesn’t translate to real life.
Why would I want to translate it?
Apparently to spare yourself the debilitating pain of being corrected online.

Is someone in pain here?

Maybe I could recommend touching some grass?

Cool dude, you’re fighting to your last breath in defense of “futa” and gonna try to gaslight people online into thinking they’re exceptionally online. You know he’s not gonna hear you, right?

BREAKING NEWS!!

Butthurt terminally online armchair trans ally discovers porn is all fantasy!

Oh, I gotta be an ally because if I was trans that’d mean all the bigoted liberals here are doing something distinctly transphobic instead of dunking on a hysterical SJW. Y’all really wear your worldviews on your sleeves.

Why are you assuming the depiction would be dehumanizing? Just how constrained do you want porn artists and their viewers to be? Bigoted and hateful porn exists, but so does porn with a progressive message, and the distinction is not which groups of people have been depicted.

If you want to focus on the word and move the euphemism treadmill along because it’s become associated with offensive stereotypes, that’s understandable, but you’re probably not getting any closer by calling people r*dditors just for saying it. As porn tags go I think ‘futanari’ is overall on its way out, for instance you won’t find it on the tag lists of e621 posts because the word is aliased to other tags and not used directly.

The right-wing wants to ban us from public life because they believe a woman having a penis is inherently pornographic, because that’s literally their only exposure to us. It’s not just about the euphemism treadmill, the way porn portrays us is actively making our lives worse. We’re overly sexualized to the point that they believe they need to protect their children from us. It is dehumanizing.

Porn doesn’t have to be this way, but to fix it there would need to be a total transformation of the entire industry and media landscape. It’s a serious problem and no one wants to confront it, because they like their porn and don’t want to give anything up.

That’s all fair, and I can see how right wing porn memes contribute to that kind of problem. Trans women need more non-pornographic representation and not be automatically treated as fetish objects. Still, I think it’s relevant that this is about something someone was saying about furry porn, which as a whole has strongly pro-LGBT politics.

I don’t think the politics of the porn can actually address the root problem, which is that we’re seen as inherently pornographic. It’s probably less bad for the porn to have good politics, but I don’t know if that’s actually the best solution to the problem. We need a lot more non-pornographic representation, but we probably also need less pornographic representation along with it.

The politics of the porn might even be irrelevant to the problem, because the problem is that our existence is X-rated. Whether the porn has good or bad politics won’t actually change whether or not they believe we need to be kept away from children.

Whether the porn has good or bad politics won’t actually change whether or not they believe we need to be kept away from children

I don’t know how much it would actually effect it either way but it definitely determines whether whatever narrative and characterization is present implies it. If it’s furry porn it is way less likely to have the typical hentai theme of woman + penis = uncontrollable sexual aggression for instance.

porn-brained gooner: “Why do you assume my futa porn is dehumanizing, huh? Just because this trans woman is drawn explicitly to make my brain and pp go gaga doesn’t mean she’s being dehumanized, she’s a futa, so, that’s what they’re meant to do.”
Shuddup dude. Shemale and tranny porn is bad too btw, don’t freak out.

Just because this trans woman is drawn explicitly to make

Futa is not trans. Futa girls were not assigned male at birth.

Fuck eh, guess you can’t get his approval now.

Lemmy isn’t as trans-woke as it used to be. At least Lemmy World. All the major communities are basically Reddit. And the mods are just as power trippy.
Yeah, men typically show up once something gets more populated and then act like they’ve always owned it. I wonder where they would learn to think like that and if it is at all connected to transmisogyny 🧐
There are trans men too, and they’re not immune to misogyny.
Notice the use of transmisogyny

Apologies, they’re not immune to transmisogyny either, in the same way cis women are not immune to misogyny. Parents are often the leading culprits in teaching or allowing misogyny to develop within their children. That’s mothers and fathers.

When I say misogyny I’m referring to all misogyny. Trans women do not exist in a vacuum.

Literally what you just said was transmisogynist, and I understand that many people who may be queer aren’t necessarily educated on what the terms mean; and most liberals feel threatened by the potential of not already being morally pure by merit of “being a good person.” Transmisogyny is a term that refers to the specificity in how trans women and transfeminine people experience misogyny, it isn’t just a word that means “misogyny but for trans people.” They don’t need to “exist in a vacuum” to require language to articulate their specific experiences, and the term emerged exactly because those experiences are erased by people who would prefer trans women not be too loud or annoying about things.

Trans men do certainly experience, internalize, and reproduce misogyny in their own ways as well, but I’m not talking about them. You are under a thread that is filled with men explicitly advocating for the use of a slur against trans women because of their inability to reconcile their acceptance of that slur with their safe place of rabid sexualization and objectification of trans women in their goon porn. And no, it isn’t “just parents” like people can have good or bad parents and be set for life, we are all socialized collectively to subscribe to patriarchy. This means challenging it is a practice we must all participate in, not some badge you get on your scout sash and forget about.

What you just said is a common TERF fascist talking point.

You’re doubling down and inferring people’s genders/identities based on their sexual preferences just to misdirect a trans-phobic dog whistle towards somebody who you disagree with. Yikes. Didn’t mean to get you so fired up. No need to hit the panic button. We’re just talking here.

I’m sorry, but trying to suggest that I’m a Scooby-Doo-esque transphobe under the mask next to an attempt to gaslight someone over their emotional response to bigots targeting their exact marginalized group makes it very difficult to take this seriously. You also put this directly under my comment that predicts liberals responding with hostility should their uncritical morality be challenged.

Do you think trans women are like, not used to that?

You’re right. Sorry for hurting your feelings. Have a nice day.

So wild how liberals will literally act like they can gaslight you into like, feel weak for caring about yourself or having emotions if you rebuke their attempt at validation. Grow up, even if you “hurt my feelings,” thats supposed to be like, my fault? Your whole ally thing about misogyny and women is that women should feel weak if theyre ever hurt by misogyny?

What exactly is the plan for that even with self-validation? You’d be getting one over on that stupid trans woman online who told you that what you said was bad? Snap out of it ffs

It was just a trans power trip before, heh, at least there’s less of annoying people like Ada, who disserves the cause