@farbel As for vision, my suggestion would be to have a look at what's going on with #solarpunk , however their scope is wider.

As for me, I am interested in our money system and it's impact and also in complementary and alternative money systems and their possibilities, maybe also for housing.

As for housing, I would not be surprised if we would come to live in self-supporting communities, rather then in cities.
Investers will then of course have already sold their empty houses 🤭

You know, I'm thinking you're right about that, @fdriesenaar . "As for housing, I would not be surprised if we would come to live in self-supporting communities, rather then in cities."

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Good point. Obviously, those communities would have to have some population density. But perhaps those *cities* wouldn't be "concrete monstrocities," but places were folks would grow their own food -- balcony gardens, rooftop gardens, indoor greenhouses, food forests, etc. @farbel .

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@farbel
I hope that you don't mind me adding to the thread. I wrote about this recently and I think your .5 acre assumption is more constraining than reality.

There are three reasons to be more optimistic I think:

1. there's more agricultural land than arable land, which we can use much more effciently (˜x5),
2. there's a lot of surfaces we can use (>x2)
3. a hectare is two acres (x2)

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use

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@farbel
that brings us to a sustiainable ~80 billion #solarpunk vegans or so.

Then if we really go sci-fi, we could use the oceans for floating farms and add another 200M km² of useful surface to the mix before we need any investments to go to mars.

over 250 billion people could have a decent meal on this wonderful planet before we need to worry about overpopulation really.

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