Roel NieskensHey Ollie, I was looking into https://github.com/Wakamai-Fondue/wakamai-fondue-site/issues/147 finally! I have trouble finding a font which has named palettes or colors. Do you know of any? Your code example is probably not from an existing font, at least not one I could find?
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Frank Grießhammer@pixelambacht I think I might be able to share a font
@pixelambacht Wil keep you posted!
@frankrolf That'd be super dope, thanks!
@frankrolf I saw it, thanks!! Can't wait to dig in, will report back
José Solé@pixelambacht 40 Degrees by Kilotype
@jmsole That seems to be a v0 font with just one (unnamed) palette?
@pixelambacht I was pretty sure it had a version with multiple palettes. But yes, it is a v0 font. Don’t have a computer around to check, sadly.
@jmsole Ah yes! But I meant *named* palettes, which apparently is possible. 40 Degrees has one palette per font so you pick the palette by picking the font. What I'm looking for is one font that has multiple palettes *with names*, so you'd enable the "Coffee Glaze" palette by name.
@pixelambacht Yeah, I know how that works. I built the fonts, and I was sure there was one version that had all palettes in a single font, maybe we didn’t end up using it for some reason.
@jmsole Yeah, the ones in the zip are all separate. If you do come across one with named palettes and/or layers, I'd be interested to see it!
Anirban Mitra@pixelambacht @jmsole I have one multipallete color font but don't know how to name palletes in ttx. So I named them in css
@pixelambacht in case you decide to bring the feature back from back burner in wakamaifondue, I have updated my fonts CPAL to include color palette names in ttx, so that I can test the feature https://fonts.atipra.in/woff/Paribartan-VF.woff2
@mitradranirban Fricking awesome! Will check it out and report back!
@mitradranirban Very cool, thanks for that update! The beta now shows the names of the palettes. I still have to update the CSS that's being generated, and check for layer names and the dark/light indicator.
@mitradranirban (CSS now generated!)
@pixelambacht Thank you very much. That's great job!
Simon Cozens@pixelambacht @jmsole They're mighty rare. None in the Google Fonts catalogue.
@simoncozens @jmsole Then I think I can put support fort that on the fondue's back burner for now :-)
Jesse R Ewing@pixelambacht My color font Broaduro has several defined color palettes.
@jesserewing Just to be sure, named palettes? The version on https://midwesttype.com/family/broaduro/ seems to be a v0 font, without any named palettes?
@pixelambacht Hmm. Well they’re supposed to be named! Type Founders did the engineering so maybe I’m not fully understanding how the font was set up. Here’s a screenshot of the palettes available.
@jesserewing It's such a new and relatively obscure feature I'm sure it makes more sense to do a "one palette per font" release, so people can swap out fonts to get a new palette. Once in the browser, you can apply any palette with custom colors anyway!
@pixelambacht It’s a very interesting technology but as a practicing designer I can’t find a use case for myself. Maybe for a website. Otherwise I would still prefer layered fonts where I retain more control. Related gripe: it’s very difficult to find information on color fonts in a search engine!
@jesserewing In an ideal world, you'd have proper ways to select and override colors without needing to manually overlap layers. But CPAL support is low on many programmer's TODO list!
@pixelambacht Yes, that would be useful!
@pixelambacht Although, if a layer font is aligned properly, layers aren’t necessary. Just a line for each style/color and then set leading to zero and boom. But it feels hacky.
Olliew@pixelambacht Been a long time since I looked into this but I think the only named palettes you can have are dark and light. It’s been a struggle to find any font that has these but https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Sixtyfour+Convergence
dark and light keywords work for both the CSS base-palette and font-palette properties when using this font.
@pixelambacht I was way too premature in raising the issue 😹. I think the CSS spec has changed since I opened this, apologies. I’ve updated the GitHub issue
@Olliew There's still named palettes possible, so the fondue should report on that (besides indeed dark/light)
> [CPAL] may also contain 'name' table IDs describing the palettes and their entries.
CJ Dunn@Olliew @pixelambacht now I want to add the optional name table to my Velzyland COLRv1 font
@pixelambacht @Olliew Just emailed the updated Velzyland COLRv1 font to you!
But also, now I'm curious about the USABLE_WITH_LIGHT_BACKGROUND vs USABLE_WITH_DARK_BACKGROUND bits. So I might try adding those next.
Out of my palettes ( https://cjtype-dev.netlify.app/typefaces/velzyland/#colorv1 ) maybe “Midnight” should only have the LIGHT BG bit set and “Silver” should only have DARK BG bit set, with the others having both bits set? Hmm