wakest likes your bugs ⁂Feb 17

I don't think people here realized yet how much development has sped up in the "atmosphere*"

I fear for the future of the fediverse if we don't get our shit together in some key areas. The way the lexicon system over there allows interoperability between distinct types of data and interface is really showing now that the developer ecosystem is picking up.

*The network comprised of different stuff that uses AT Proto

Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Feb 17
I have been watching both spaces for many years (almost the beginning of fedi) and Bluesky when it was just a discord room before Jay was chosen. There is a major shift going on where some of the ideas that have been talked about in various shapes across various communities are being implemented with nice interfaces and able to be used by "normal people" aka not people who know how to patch their Linux kernal.
Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Feb 17
Shout out to WAFRN (@admin) and @anewsocial for taking the uncomfortable position of straddling the space inbetween protocols. I think this is truly the strategy that is going to be needed if we want to "win" the push towards an open social web for the whole internet.
Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Feb 17
I will say here again I am very much on team fediverse and the anarchist anticapitalist free culture side of networks. Bluesky has some "help" with dirty money vc bullshit. There are many things Bluesky (the company) is doing that is awful (like verifying ICE ffs and deleting Palestinian accounts) and those are things I have been continuously pointing out as well.
Show threadwakest likes your bugs ⁂Feb 17
lol cool cool
Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17
@liaizon this is harassment.. you're getting your crowd to shit on me and misinterpret my words. I never said anything against Palestine. Anti capitalism and anarchism is by definition a far left ideology in pretty much every democracies world wide. This is just facts. I'm entitled to my opinion, so what? You guys are acting like mobs.
Show threadMatt Hall

@nicobao @liaizon

A mob. We're acting like _a_ mob.

Anyway, you took the original words out of context. No one said ANARCHISTS rule.

They said they preferred the anarchist anti-capitalist _nature_ of federated networks.

If you think those are the same, you might've earned some of the traffic you're getting.

Feb 17 at 7:06pmWeb
Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17
@401matthall @liaizon yes collectively you're behaving like one. And considering your last words, you're basically saying I deserve a torrent of tweets making me look like a fascist pro-genocide asshole just because I have differing opinions on technicalities of social protocols.
Sorry but if that's how you think a healthy community should function it's a bad look for ActivityPub.
Show threadMatt HallFeb 17

@nicobao @liaizon

You didn't express differing opinions about social protocols. You expressed a strong dislike for extreme political ideology.

...

What're we arguing about here?

Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17
@401matthall @liaizon I have a strong dislike of how strongly the ActivityPub crowd think about anticapitalism and anti-VC to the point the network feels so toxic in this regard that nobody with differing opinions would even join and stay.
It's not just the OP, it's pervasive across the network.
Show threadMatt HallFeb 17

@nicobao @liaizon

We generally consider this a feature not a bug.

I'd say we're on different pages but I honestly believe we're not even reading from the same book.

Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17
@401matthall @liaizon yeah, I'm not interested in echo chambers if that's what you mean. What's the point of a social network if you're just talking with people who have the same opinion as you?
Show threadMatt HallFeb 17

@nicobao @liaizon

We don't _all_ have the same opinion about everything. We do disagree.

I think it's surprising that you're surprised there's a group of people who disagree with you and say so and you _seem_ take issue with it.

... Are you saying the reason you get on the internet is to disagree with people? Or to challenge your own assumptions?

Because so far... You don't appear to be receptive to any disagreement with your perspective.

Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17

@401matthall @liaizon I really don't take any issue with you disagreeing with me Matt. I can see the value of a social network where communities form and govern themselves in echo chambers. I don't see the value of it in Twitter form. As a slack/matrix/discord chat room, that makes more sense to me.

The only issue I took earlier was about the misrepresentation of my thoughts (which was partially my fault). Many people thought I was talking about Palestine.

Show threadMatt HallFeb 17

@nicobao

<shrug> Look, that's what I thought you were saying initially.

Clarity is hard in written form.

Anyway, I hope you have success with your project. I like that people are thinking about the problem of communication. If you're willing to share your work with the world and that the context you want to work in. I think that's a good thing.

Show threadNicolas GimenezFeb 17
@401matthall I really appreciate the kind words. Yes that tweet of mine was poorly phrased, and mildly offensive for people in the ActivityPub space. I reckon it was wrongly put.