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Zen_Shinobi15 years ago this was true lol
Redjard3 years ago this was true. Not sure if nvidia works properly with wayland even now, though at least the trend is different now
It has no issues, NVIDIA just works these days (if you use a distro where you can choose to use proprietary drivers for it during installation)
I mean yeah, but that’s a little like saying “computers all have WiFi capabilities these days, as long as you only buy motherboards with built in WiFi.” It’s a pretty large limitation to place on the user’s choice. Especially when Linux users like to meme about certain distros being better or worse.
It used to be that there was no option at all, on any distro. You’d have the broken proprietary drivers, or the open source reverse engineered one with half the performance and unreliability in specialty features.
Since then Nvidia has shifted focus to get their drivers working properly, and there were also changes making them more open source, tho I’m not sure that’d mean the “proprietary driver” will go full foss at some point.
If op is to be believed, the proprietsry driver is already a lot more stable, so it’s now a software licensing issue not an unfixable technical issue.
mercAre there distros where you can’t do that? I mean, maybe Debian?
I have had only a few issues with nVidia on Linux for a few years. But, I am using an old card. I’d like to live in the nice sunny castle, not the scary one with bad weather. But, at least I have mostly working shelter while I play my games.
AudaciousArmadilloDebian has proprietary software via opt-in through the non-free repository. However the Nvidia driver is horribly outdated so I had to install them directly. But now it works decently well. But my 1070TI is on borrowed time now no matter the OS 🥲
Yeah, I have the same issue with my 1080. I haven’t installed Debian in decades because everything in “stable” is so incredibly outdated. It’s supposed to lead to a stable system, and in some ways it does. But, in other ways because everything is so out of date, people often have to install from source or find alternate packages, so it becomes possibly even more unstable.
I think with flatpak it’s fine nowadays. So I have the stable base Debian, but most applications are flatpak and for dev work I use containers or nix anyways.
KristellFrom what I saw from my old room mate, it worked fine as of about 6 months ago. They got lower performance than on Windows, but still ran most games over 155fps (their monitor’s refresh rate) without any notable bugs. They had one of the cards that was like $2k new a year or two ago, idr the number, I think 4090?
DreamButtThe fps gap in games is still quite high with nvidia compared to windows, amd is almost on par now
ÜbercomplicatedThis is the main reason I switched. I got about 30% less performance on a 3060 Ti in Linux than on Windows. And then Counter Strike 2 came out and I was fucked. Now I get about 30% more performance on Linux than on Windows with my 7900 XT (got it on super sale, so worth it). That is ultimately why I switched. And I can use sway and hyprland now, instead of i3. For me, the switch to AMD brought huge improvements.
VardøgorThat’s fair. Mint did not care much with my old AMD Phenom 2. It had so much screen tear
thisbenzingringnvidia drivers are all dependant on who is implementing them
I only ever have problems if the kernel is updated without the drivers, because I somehow updated before the video driver was included
this is my experience for over 10 years now on Arch
Yeah, have it setup in nix to just work and haven’t had issues in years. When I ran arch (btw) I was routinely recovering my system from bad updates
how often did you update? I run pacman a couple times a month but rarely at the beginning of the week or on weekends. I’ve only had three or four OMG what just happened reboots. And twice it was something that needed the front page of the arch webpage calling out the fix, I know I should look there more often but I only ever do when it’s so bad I can’t make heads or tails of it
I usually updated a couple times a week and got bit once or twice a year over the course of probably 8 years running arch
SkullgridI need an intel driver to turn the fucking useless onboard graphics off. for debian. any tips?
any tips?
My laptop has this option in the bios settings Not sure if it’s only for laptops but you could check there.
Leave it to budget boards to exclude every possible useful setting but keep “boot from lan”
The link is to a laptop.
Also, it’s MSI for “multiple serious issues”
$2000 MSI Gaming Laptop is Rigged to FAIL #tech #pc #technology #shorts
You can’t. Some laptops have the igpu as the dedicated driver of the display and can’t do hardware mux. If your laptop doesn’t offer the option in UEFI, it probably doesn’t support it.
thank you for this info. what do you think would happen if I did the following , more or less with the info indicated in my post here?
gist.github.com/…/9e5f7349cf4f28bc82f82ea98004777…
lemmy.world/post/43248486/22203270
The one you own is better cause no one can afford to choose anymore.
Jo MiranThe graphics card in my laptop lets me play Megabonk and Dead Cells and Shotgun King. Do I need anything more than that?
I mean, terraria, avorion, elden ring, vampire survivors, castle crashers, spiderheck, binding of isaac, few nights more, crying suns (if you’re a masochist), ultimate chicken horse, and of course, a party game like keep talking and no one explodes.
Avid AmoebaHad a 2080 Ti until recently. I’ve only paid once for a new GPU in my life - a 1070 when we were gonna get millionaires on crypto mining. Gave it to a friend’s kid when I found that cheap 2080 Ti.
Same, I’ve been saying I’ll upgrade when the prices become sane since shortly before the asteroid hit and killed off the dinosaurs.
But, it’s amazing how well the 1080 has aged. I can still play most of the games I want to at 1440p while still keeping the frame rate at at least 60 fps average, and only rarely dipping below 40. Admittedly, I sometimes do have to turn down the graphics settings, but not so they’re immersionly-breakingly-bad.
My next card will definitely be AMD, but I want to make it a good one. So, I’m annoyed that the 9000 series didn’t even have an “enthusiast” tier.
I’ve got a 1060 sitting in my server, forever waiting for an upgrade (It’ll inherit the 3060ti in my desktop whenever that gets an upgrade)
katy ✨i wish i could go to an amd card but i just upgraded my video card like 3 months before i decided to move to linux :(
ZorsithJo, no problem! Just use the proprietary drivers and vulcan, cuda etc. Just works
Especially with a recent card, like a 4060. Problematic are only the cards which are considered legacy by nvidia (I think older than the GTX 900 series), because they do not update their drivers for newer kernels. In these cases resorting to nouveau (in-kernel driver for nvidia cards) is your best bet, but you will not use the card’s full potential.
Wait, does Nvidia actually update their drivers according to the latest Linux kernels?
yeah its not too bad i have the regular drivers and nvidia-smi shows the card using the gpu for most things; and jellyfin works great too.
i wish ff7 rebirth worked better but i think thats more of the game than a card.
What distro do you use, generally, there is a relatively easy way to switch to the nvidia proprietary ones, or what is “regular”in your case?
Last time I switched nvidia drivers after initial installation, I had to uninstall (lib32-)vulkan-nouveau (32bit and 64bit) and install (lib32-)nvidia-utils manually, but I guess, that may distro specific.
i’m on mint
➜ 11:11 katy ~ apt list --installed | grep "nvidia"
libnvidia-cfg1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-common-580/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 all [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-compute-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-compute-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-decode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-decode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-egl-wayland1/noble-updates,now 1:1.1.13-1ubuntu0.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-egl-wayland1/noble-updates,now 1:1.1.13-1ubuntu0.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-encode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-encode-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-extra-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-fbc1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-fbc1-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-gl-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libnvidia-gl-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 i386 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-compute-utils-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-dkms-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-driver-550/noble-updates,noble-security,now 550.163.01-0ubuntu0.24.04.2 amd64 [installed]
nvidia-driver-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-firmware-550-550.144.03/noble-updates,noble-security,now 550.144.03-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed]
nvidia-firmware-550-550.163.01/noble-updates,now 550.163.01-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed]
nvidia-firmware-580-580.126.09/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-kernel-common-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-kernel-source-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-prime-applet/zena,zena,now 1.4.8 all [installed]
nvidia-prime/noble,noble,now 0.8.17.2 all [installed,automatic]
nvidia-settings/noble,now 510.47.03-0ubuntu4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
nvidia-utils-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-580/noble-updates,noble-security,now 580.126.09-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
I see 😇 you are already using latest proprietary nvidia drivers, if I read that correctly
On mint, one uses the GUI tool driver-manager to switch (nvidia)drivers: